taken from bbc website *However, working alongside coach James Lowes, he guided the club away from relegation and, in August, led them to their first Challenge Cup victory since 1974 courtesy of a 25-16 win over Huddersfield.* relegation? someone should tell bbc there is no relegation anymore not like the bbc to get rugby league wrong

Sorry, I probably didn't phrase that correctly. What I meant to say was that, given you think that 'dumbing down our own comp' would harm us at International level, don't you think that the sending our best players across to the NRL would have the same impact? We may end up with a couple of 'better' players, but as the overall standard of the SL would by definition be worse, the strength in depth would be compromised irrepairably. In other words we'd end up with a couple of decent players and a sea of dross.

At the risk of doubting the honesty of that post, can you name me a single 'pie' who considers Fielden or Coley to be international class, or think that Mossop is ready (not having made a first team shirt his own this season) or that Joel Tomkins had a good enough season last year to merit an England call-up? I'd love to have a discussion with these imaginary 'pies' of yours.

Touche! If that's the case I apologise. Couldn't supply me with the link by any chance...there's a thread I'd like to put my two cents on!

Edit: Just been back on the Wigan board and I still can't find it. Wouldn't mind that link if you will.