well I make it Wigan 8 St helens 13

If Saints make the final they will win it IMO but i have a feeling we could beat them on Saturday.

Leeds aren't 'all that' and could easily be stopped by a fired up Saints side that hit their straps.

Couldn't disagree more. Leeds appear to be the only team who are on their game.

Leeds don't sit well with the Favourites tag and have choked in games in the past when they've had that tag sitting on their head.

Are they a good side? Yes

Are they a great side? No

Are they beatable? Very

Thats just my opinion but I believe i'll be proved right in that Saints will beat them in the final if thats the fixture.

What has changed from the previous couple of years?

They've lost Ellis which is a huge hole that hasn't been filled imo but what will 100% be different going into this Grand Final over the past couple is that they'll go in as huge favourties in comparison to 07 and 08 when they were huge underdogs after hammerings by Saints in the semi finals.

Leeds are a good side but they aren't in the league of the great Saints and Bradford sides of the superleague era. Those 2 teams had higher level competition then what Leeds have faced in these past couple of years. They've had to overcome one team in reality compared to the 2 sides i mention who had to get over at least a couple of really good sides.

There may be harder games on a week by week basis but in the games that really matter the quality just isn't there.

In a one off game I reckon Saints will beat them without the complacency of the past 2 years effecting them.