I don't think anyone would suggest that with a straight face.

Good player Puletua but the quality is slowly being stripped away from around him and the likes of Graham. If these youngsters they are banging on about are any good, the Saints dynasty could carry on for another 10 years. It not...

No i am implying that if he is a prop and he makes more yards, tackles, yards per carry, offloads while missing less tackles, making more tackle busts then he [ucan not be crap [/uif Morley is not crap. Morley can not be very good / great and Pulutua be crap if he does all those better. It the usual case of opposition fans looking stupid by underrating players from other teams that they would be raving about if they played for us.

correct, and Im not doing that.

I thought the same thing. Would have been straight off in any amateur game.

The touchie couldn't have made it any clearer for Bentham, could he? I suppose he could have said:

'Significant =redsend him off contact =redsend him off with the face. By the way, Phil. You clearly must =redsend him off. Now. Red card. Out of the pocket, in Senior's face. =redSend him off'.

It would have been better for Senior had he carted him, I suspect the imminent ban will be worse as a result.

Underrating him, underrating him. Are you having a laugh. Folk wanted to see him in the SL dream team for goodness sake, pretty much on the back of 4 Tries at Castleford. His stats will be decent as he's in a side that's been largely dominant this year. I'll maintain, big games, arm wrestle, all those silly terms, I've not seen your 'Tony P' step upto the plate like others have, ie, Graham, Morley.

In Cricket, folk talk about averages, but folk normally want to interrogate the stats further. When did he get his runs, were they match winning runs, under pressure runs, or runs when his side was dominant. From what I've seen he looks quality when all is going well, and crap when it's sleeve roll up time, which is generally where the best earn their reputation.

I wouldn't swap any of Cooper, Morley or Carvell for him.

Tony P is a second rower. If you look at the minutes Ali L did for Leeds, that is the ideal for Puletua too. He comes on, does the fancy stuff and goes off when his energy levels are getting low. He's now playing the majority of the games at prop, so obviously the skills have to be put on the back burner.

no, you said he was crap therefore you are under rating him because he is far from it. If you were arguing that he was very good rather than superb, or just good rather than very good your argument would be at least credible. To say he is crap though is moronic and it is that statement that I have argued against.

That Gateaux bird, saints fan will have your knackers for garters for even suggesting that Puletua isn't the best forward in the world.

IMO Puletua is just an average player.

That rumour is complete rubbish and you know it.

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