he improved massively in the second half. Also i thought his defence has improved alot. TBH he was just trying to hard.


it has absolutly nothing to do with his skin colour. that doesnt even come into the discussion.

I'm with you.

You'll get the odd numpty who will have a pop at him for his skin colour, but that's just a numbers game from society. I think mainly he gets criticism from our fans because he's local, he's an extravert and he's not 'perfection'.

As a set of fans, we like things in black and white, we can't wait to see how somebody develops, like a Harrison.

It's either, he's a good 'un or get rid, NL1 player. Other clubs fans seem better at allowing their youngsters time.

Maybe it's a negative of the cash injection. Folk think, get rid, get somebody better, we've got the money instead of looking to nurture, it's like "Nah, not good enough, get rid."

We're very impatient.

he tries TOO hard you mean!

Like in the semi and at Wigan?

Warrington's defence last night was shocking and there were many culprits.

However this threads is about Penny.

He has enthusiasm & nice expensive boots, but for Christs sake the lad can't play rugby. Anyone with eyes can see that. His mistakes both on & off the ball were embarrasing and simply undefendable.

Do the decent thing & either sack him, send him to Widnes of have the common sense to realise he'll never ever make it in the top grade & resign

This thread depresses me. We seem to bicker, fall out, name call and insult just because of differing opinions.

Anyone booing him, or wishing he was injured after that tackle, cannot call themselves fans. That is shocking behaviour regardless.

However it is perfectly possible for fans to hold an opinion that he is (currently) a liability, lacks composure and the skills to hold a place in an SL side without being called names on here by the usual suspects who seem to flaunt the AUP by abusing other forum members.

I don't think anyone would blame him for the loss tonight, or say he was alone in his underperformance either. However it is true to say he has some serious areas to address in his game and skills.

It would be more interesting to debate how/where he has improved his game following his spell at Widnes.

I hope to GOD KP reads this post..

Kevin come back to the VIKINGS we all loved you!!

one thing is for sure i very much doubt KP will be playing at wembley,

his confidence seems to be at rock bottom atm.

All I can say is come on Kev, I believe the vast majority of wire fans want you to make it and think you can.

Getting stick off away supporters and a percentage of your own "supporters" I'm afraid comes with the job. In fact when I was younger and more of a big mouth, I used to give the likes of Offiah a hard time.

People will make out that it wa typical Penny, when actually it wasn't. He doesn't usually make those kind of mistakes, some of them last night were ridiculous. I think it is pretty clear that he was trying too hard, and hopefully now he has had his return game at the HJ he will calm down.

To counter some of this negativity, can I just point out a couple of the good things he did.

His defence was very solid, much better than previous matches with us.

He also got the ball down three times, almost a fourth. I don't know whether the ref was right with the forward pass or offside, however on another night with a different ref, the lad would have had another hat-trick, yet folk on the terraces would still be booing him.

His take for his second disallowed try was world class. Not bad for a bloke who can't catch.

o dear