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Like to think we will but cannot see us being in the top 8.Lets enjoy the wembley experience.

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Quote: Ulster Wire "The two tournaments don't have to be mutually exclusive.'"


I've made that exact comment somewhere else on this board: we shouldn't have to sacrifice the league to compete in the cup or vice versa. Top teams compete in all competitions, you wouldn't hear of Saints saying "we're at Wembley so the league doesn't matter". Those people will be very sorry if we lose the cup and finish outside the playoffs. We'll have nothing then.

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Quote: Rugbychick™ "I've made that exact comment somewhere else on this boardBut we will have made a Wembley final and have improved as a team.

Whilst you don;t want to blame the start of the season for our poor league position, that is exactly what it is. The two games we lost at Easter were still very early in Smith's reign and came only three weeks after our lowest performance against Quins, so things didn't just get fixed after Lowes was sacked, it took him a little time.

After the Easter period our record is something like 11 wins and 6 defeats, which is decent form. Those defeats have come against Wigan, Leeds, Saints, Hull KR, Hudds and a disappointing one against Bradford.

So basically we lost against the top5 away from home.

The most disappointing period of this season was the start, in the first 9 weeks (under Lowes and when Smith had just taken over) we lost against St Helens, Catalans (at home), Wakefield, Leeds, Quins (by 60), Salford, and Cas (at home).

That is the period that has cost us.

People have wanted us to make finals, we have done that this year, even if we lose, it is a start, hopefully it is a turning point for the club.

Hull, Bradford and Catalans are all also at risk of missing the playoffs, so it isn't a given that we should make it, and none of those clubs have changed coach during the year, and none of them have a Wembley visit to look forward to.

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I don't think it's entirely fair to say that a bad start to the season has cost us the 8 (if we finish outside it). We've had plenty of games since then that we should have, and didn't, win.'"



After we dismally lost at Celtic both Wigan and Warrington had 14 points and we are well in the eight now. It does help us though that our points difference is over 100+ despite also having a dismal start.

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Exactly my point. We've had the oppotunity to turn it around and assure ourselves of a top 8 finish and we haven't, which is why none of the league games left (including last night) should be taken lightly. The poor start to the season has had the biggest effect on our current league position but we have had ample time to turn it around. I take Dave T's point about us improving as a team and currently having a more successful season than any other for 19 years but does that mean we should just sit back and allow the playoffs to pass us by? To me that comes back to the same old Wire attitude: "we've done just enough, we don't need to do any more". Instead of thinking "we've made it to Wembley, who knows what we could achieve in the playoffs!".

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Quote: Bilko "After we dismally lost at Celtic both Wigan and Warrington had 14 points and we are well in the eight now. It does help us though that our points difference is over 100+ despite also having a dismal start.'"

Since Round 16 the fixtures have beenWigan
Wakefield (h)
Hull KR (a)
Quins (h)
Cats (h)
Bulls (a)
Leeds (h)
Saints (a)
Wire (h)

Wire
Cats (a)
Hull (h)
Celtic (a)
Saints (h)
Hudds (a)
Reds (h)
Leeds (a)
Wigan (a)

Taking out last night's game, the difference was one win, where you got a great in against Leeds at home, and we lost in the last second against Leeds away.

The fact that we won in the semi means that we both won the same amount of games during that period.

There's really not much difference, and it's hardly like we have collapsed.

We are still well within reach of the playoffs, with two of our last three games against our rivals.

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