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Quote: Milly "Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I can remember the cries of 'we want Cullen' years before 'we want Cullen out'.

We want a local coach who will show pride in the shirt, then we want a proven Aussie coach (cos any Aussie will be better).

We want the big name players but we don't want anymore foreign journeymen.

It's worth a big name on big wages - until he doesn't settle and then he's just here for the money.

We want the local kids to play and show some pride and passion, but Penny, Riley, Blythe etc aren't big enough/ fast enough/ skilled enough to play superleague.

Briers is finished/ over/ a bad influence until we lose then we need him/ he is Warrington.

The board can't win because we are never satisfied. They give us what we want but get crucified when it doesn't work. As I said, hindsight is a wonderful thing. I wonder if, in hindsight, the board wish they'd never got involved in the first place.'"


eusa_clap.gif Couldn't put it better myself! If fans think things will change over night now Tony Smith is in charge then they're wrong. It is clear there has/are problems deep down at our club and but I believe TS has already shown that he isn't going to take anyone under performing and slowly we will see the results. Fans need to give the players time and get behind the team... and booing is NOT going to help matters, only destroy the confidence that TS is trying to give the players!

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The pre-season MUST have a big influence on the season - if it didn't, clubs wouldn't bother with them. We started preparing for this season way back in October - Lowes pulled out of assisting with England to focus on club duties. It's clear the preperations have been substandard.

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Quote: Dave T "Do you really think one pre-season with the wrong man in charge can have such a negative effect on a team? I keep wondering whether my anger is misplaced?'"

Yes!

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Quote: SEB "The pre-season MUST have a big influence on the season - if it didn't, clubs wouldn't bother with them. We started preparing for this season way back in October - Lowes pulled out of assisting with England to focus on club duties. It's clear the preperations have been substandard.'"
Oh I agree, I'm just simply shocked that any skill with the ball that they seemed have under Cullen seems to have been erased from their skillset!

Can a bad pre-season have such a negative impact, or do we think it is a combination of focus, attitude, tactics, confidence etc? Some of the passing yesterday was really poor, when moving the ball wide has always been a real strength of ours, with most of those players being involved previously.

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Quote: Dave T "Oh I agree, I'm just simply shocked that any skill with the ball that they seemed have under Cullen seems to have been erased from their skillset!

Can a bad pre-season have such a negative impact, or do we think it is a combination of focus, attitude, tactics, confidence etc? Some of the passing yesterday was really poor, when moving the ball wide has always been a real strength of ours, with most of those players being involved previously.'"


Confidence has to play part of it. See Mattk King for reference.

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We've all got to take a big dose of hindsight, board, coaches and players, over what has happened in the last few years. The boards strategy was well intentioned.

If you trace back to June 2004 when Simon Moran became the majority shareholder, this combined with the new stadium gave us some potential and finance to go places. The squad we had at the time was playoff material but no more so the strategy was to bring in quality to improve us.

Most of the signings which were made since then were well received by the fans and had us excited, its only been in hindsight when players didn't perform that we have been able to be critical:

2004:
Henry Fa'afili, Martin Gleeson

2005:
Logan Swann, Toa Kohe-Love, Simon Grix, Andy Bracek
Chris Bridge arrived early season and Andrew Johns for the playoffs

2006:
Paul Rauhihi, Stuart Reardon, Rob Parker, Michael Sullivan, Richie Barnett

2007:
Adrian Morley, Paul Johnson, Vinnie Anderson

2008:
Michael Monaghan, Matt King, Chris Hicks, Louis Anderson

2009:
Gareth Carvell, Mick Higham


Thats 6 Great Britain internationals, 2 Australia internationals, 5 NZ internationals. 5 of the guys coming from the NRL were regarded as top NRL players and had played in Grand Finals.

Pretty much all of these signings excited us when they were announced so its a bit rich to turn around later and hammer the board for making the signings.

With the benefit of hindsight the ones of those I would have signed would be Fa'afili, Gleeson, Grix, Rauhihi, Morley, Hicks, Carvell, Higham. The common denominator of the others is they were not the player with us that they were at their previous clubs either because their bodies were shot by injury, or they'd achieved everything they were going to in their careers already and were in comfort zone mentality, or maybe they just were made to look better by the players they had around them.

Thats the lesson we need to learn for future signings, we've been burned in the past and I agree with the names that have been mentioned on this forum recently like Shenton, Myler etc for players to look for - either upcoming young players with talent or players with something still to achieve, for this reason I'd be interested in Brett Finch who I understand is going to stay in the NRL the rest of this season and look to England in 2010.

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