ironically given the stick, Kevin Penny.

Plus if we had a team of Jon Clarkes we would have the best defence in superleague by a country mile

Too much club bias and subjectivity to ever get a clear answer. Coming at it from a different slant, if you look at Leeds, I don't see them as a team littered with 'stars', more a cohesive unit.

I am hoping that is what Smith is trying to achieve here, removing those who don't buy into the 'team first, individual a very distant second'.

Yeah, that's my take on it too really. If we signed Carl Ablett, Ian Kirke, Ryan Bailey etc, they'd look distinctly average. At Leeds, they understand their role, carry out their duties manfully, and allow the 'better players' to show their skills on the back of their hard work.

Players, right now that would walk into a top two side (or at least squad, ie, they'd get interest should they be available)

Ben Westwood
Kevin Penny
Matt King
Tyrone McCarthy
Gareth Carvell

I have it as.

Westwood.
Carvell.
Morley (age going against him but would not look out of place).


Penny is too raw as yet to make the first team squad for either, but they would be interested as a mid-term prospect.

Yeah, Morley is probably borderline.

I honestly think King would walk into Saints or Leeds right now. Both side only have one recognised centre, and granted we're playing him on the wing I know, but I still think King has unfinished business with centre, I hope this is just a short term measure to add some solidity to what was, well frankly, a disgrace of a defencer before Smith & including Smiths Harlequins trip.