Sponsors website states Manchester as their location

www.thereddevils.net/news/2015-h ... -tomorrow/ Bit of an increase in price, being a season ticket holder don't you get a 10/20% off all products? Does for the first time I've seen mentioned the magical £1,000,000 figure in that blub, that must be shifting on hell of a lot of kit.

www.thereddevils.net/news/2015-h ... -tomorrow/ Bit of an increase in price, being a season ticket holder don't you get a 10/20% off all products? Does for the first time I've seen mentioned the magical £1,000,000 figure in that blub, that must be shifting on hell of a lot of kit.

Can anyone translate?

Sorry the joys of messaging from my phone while in a rush.

Simply the article mentions that there is a change the deal could be worth up too £1,000,000 but you'd think that making that much would mean we need too shift one hell of a lot of merchandise/kit.

For what its worth (not much I know) but my opinion on the kit designs, I can't stand the home version but I'll accept the change strip as it really doesn't matter to me what colour it is but the home one, and I'll keep banging on about it, is the lack of white, is a basic Red & White kit [ithat[/i hard to come up with?

Oh on the Manchester thing, not to fussed about what the sponsor decides where its location is (although!) but I'm firmly in the camp that the club should have some recognition of where its from and who its representing on the shirt.

As I say only my opinion.

That's pretty much identical to my own thoughts. Under Armour do make some outstanding rugby shirts (google the Wales RU and Clermont Auvergne RU shirts to get an idea) but, for whatever reason, we've spurned the opportunity to go for a classy design that just might've appealed to those who aren't already diehards and instead come up with something that's remiscent of something from the bad old days of the early 90s.

The kit was actually the first item discussed at the first (and so far only) meeting of the 'fans board.' FWIW, the design was rejected overwhelmingly by those present (although some people were more enthusiastic about the away design (I wasn't amongst them!). The overwhelming majority actually expressed a preference to a design that was much more 'traditional' (red shirt, white trim) and IMO far superior.

Unfortunately, it seems that the design by this stage had already been signed off. You can imagine the surprise of those who were present at the meeting when the design they'd 'rejected' was launched last Tuesday.

I personally won't buy the shirt as I really don't like the design or the collar (it actually looks far too similar to last year's IMO) but hopefully many other people will do.

My New Kits arrived today complete with player signatures, i actually think they look a lot better in the flesh than they do in the designs and delivered before Christmas

not United because they've never sold any merchandise with red devils on it?

seriously are you counting a Christmas tshirt?? It probably took you about 10 minutes to find that, all my man u gear (training tops) (tracksuits) (playing shirts) (hats) none have Red Devils on, it's a nickname the don't often use just like us when we were Salford City reds. If we market the RED DEVILS enough then it'll stick and we can use the name to our advantage.

I agree on this one. Bit pointless pointing out a rare one-off as an example to discredit your argument. A fairer way of doing it would have been to highlight it, but express that it was an exception rather than the norm. However, one-upmanship is strong on forums, so I wouldn't expect a great deal more.

Quote: TheButcher "I agree on this one. Bit pointless pointing out a rare one-off as an example to discredit your argument. A fairer way of doing it would have been to highlight it, but express that it was an exception rather than the norm. However, one-upmanship is strong on forums, so I wouldn't expect a great deal more.'" How about this one? store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/p ... 9&cid=3965 Or this one? store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/p ... 5&cid=3965 Or this one? store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/p ... 0&cid=3970 How many bits of regular, non-festive merchandise do I need to post before I'm discrediting a statement that was obviously nonsense rather than engaging in one-upmanship?

Quote: TheButcher "I agree on this one. Bit pointless pointing out a rare one-off as an example to discredit your argument. A fairer way of doing it would have been to highlight it, but express that it was an exception rather than the norm. However, one-upmanship is strong on forums, so I wouldn't expect a great deal more.'" How about this one? store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/p ... 9&cid=3965 Or this one? store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/p ... 5&cid=3965 Or this one? store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/p ... 0&cid=3970 How many bits of regular, non-festive merchandise do I need to post before I'm discrediting a statement that was obviously nonsense rather than engaging in one-upmanship?

No, it really isn't. The bit where I said "how are you wrong about everything?" probably was and, in fairness, I was being a bit y there. Unnecessary and unfair - sorry Mike. However, if we're not allowed to disprove an argument using actual evidence then what's the point? Let's all go and get our Terry Campese shirts printed up eh? You could easily have taken a minute to look at the United site before playing the self-appointed forum sheriff and throwing sanctimonious, passive-aggressive digs about but chose not to. C'est la vie.

The argument that 'United don't use Red Devils, therefore we can be the best known Red Devils' is plainly untrue. We are never again going to be [ithe[/i Red Devils to the general public - that ship has long since sailed. Whether that means we should drop 'Salford' or not, I honestly have no idea. My gut feeling is that, no, sporting clubs need a sense of place, but I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong.

Evidence is great. Of course it is. But evidence is strongest when you provide plenty of it. I'd be interested to see what the statistical figure for merchandise with and without the Red Devils on it. I'm not that interested or have the time to find out for myself. What you've done is provide some evidence that backs up what you say, just not enough to throw the argument out.

As for the forum Sheriff rant, I find it interesting that you took anything I said to heart. All I did was take up a different position than you and I didn't think I was being offensive in any way. I think you're being a tad sensitive if you think I've been Domineering, sanctimonious, or passive aggressive. I thought you were a little bit of all three of those things towards Mike before I even entered the discussion which, to your credit, you acknowledged.

I suggest chilling a little bit. Have a coffee. Go for a poo.

Then I think maybe we can all be friends again.