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Aye I can't really think of anyone off the top of my head. Time's running out a bit now to be snapping up new players/coaches, the vast majority will be contracted to other clubs. Any recently retired forwards?

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Is it me or is a pattern emerging? Being those that attack the club require serious lesson's in grammar & punctuation ?

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Quote: Early Bath "So that makes him best coach in super league does it. The club again come out with same tripe every year we have best coaching set up in the league if so why don't we win out club talks crap'"


Quote: Early Bath "The do gooders is insulting to me because they are the naive put up and shut up brigade who think JW is above critisism, whom chant his name as though hes the saviour.But truth be known he is the cause of this sinking ship.Nevermind giving this board support they/he has had 30 years to sort this pile of 5hite out we only want to be competative ffs.'"
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Anyway, besides being mentally exhausted from reading that mush, can the people on here show me the proof and fact's they have to back up there claims he's a "yes man" ?

Are they comparing him to MP, in the sense that just because Phil didn't come out and announce all the problems the club has he's a yes man? Have you ever thought Phil isn't blind and had idea's of changing thing's regardless, which didn't nescessarily require coming out and publically slamming the club?

I think it say's allot about PV to actually want the head coaching role considering he knew what MP didn't. Phil isn't stupid, and know's it would be coaching suicide if he was to become another yes man. Instead it appears he want's to make genuine changes, and the team seemed to respond to well to his approach last season.

As previously said, I genuinely believe MP came out an announced his finding's because he wanted to give himself a way out. PV on the other hand seem's to just want to get on with job in hand.

Give the man time people, and let's move forward from there.

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PV had been out of work for some time before we offered him a lifeline. If he walked away from Salford, I suspect he'd be out of work again. I couldn't see any other club in SL wanting him and not many more in in the lower leagues either. We have gone continually backwards since KH was sacked and under PV I can't see anything but more of the same.

I'd loved to be proved wrong, but facts don't lie. Cashmere - Gone, Ratchford - Gone, Parish - Gone. Replacements - Unproven or not good enough.

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Quote: The optimist "Who is about who can fill that role tho?'"

I'm just waiting for one of the usual suspects to say Alker. At which point I may drive my car off the top of barton bridge so it crashes on the stadium.

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Quote: maxred "Is it me or is a pattern emerging? Being those that attack the club require serious lesson's in grammar & punctuation ?'"


Erm.

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Quote: Rooted Red "PV had been out of work for some time before we offered him a lifeline. '"


To be fair, so had Matt Parrish.

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Quote: Rooted Red "....We have gone continually backwards since KH was sacked and under PV ......'"


I think you're wearing KH blinkers - in his tenure we had a cracking start to the SL season, but went downhill from the middle of that season and right through the next one, leading to him going - no was was it "since KH was sacked"

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Its time for the petty bickering about puntuation,spelling,grammer and difference of opinion to stop and accept the decision of the club to make PV head coach.
Time to get behind him and the players and support our club in our new home.
Time to judge will be next October as to whether the right man was given the job.

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Quote: Fungus The Muffin Man "I'm just waiting for one of the usual suspects to say Alker. At which point I may drive my car off the top of barton bridge so it crashes on the stadium.'"


Like the A team so nobody dies? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: BartonFlyer "I just can't believe the sheer rudeness of some on this site - "Vievers is a yes man" say quite a few - Solly, GT et al (who's Al I hear you ask....) - how the f*** do you justify that kind of insult?'"


You make it sound like I've called him a useless, fat, bald c**t or something similar.

Honest answer? I've nothing against Vievers himself and, to be honest, I do think that he'll do a good job. However, it does seem a bit strange to me that he was overlooked in the first instance for Parish but is then put into the post when he leaves under a cloud and telling everyone how sh*te the club is.

Does that mean he's definitely a "yes man"? No.

Does that mean Vievers thinks of himself as/knows he's a "yes man"? No.

Does that mean the club have got him in the job because he's been around for a while and they think he'll be less questioning of what goes on behind the scenes and will be easy to keep to the party line? In my opinion (yes, opinion, I have no problem with other people's opinions differing, would you believe) yes, that's probably how the club looked at it. Particularly has the job would be very hard to sell to anyone else outside Salford.

Whether that is true or not remains to be seen. How things will work out remains to be seen. As has been mentioned elswhere, Phil could easily go about sorting things out internally without shouting about it - as it is, he could be as radical as Parish wanted to be but we may never find out. He's certainly got my support whilst he's in the post anyway, regardless of my opinions stated above.

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I wish some posters would not be so definate in their pronouncements; whether they be forecasting the success or failure of the coach, or the reasons he was chosen. From what I have seen of him, he is no yes man: he certainly was not at Saint Helens.

As GT, I will be supporting him. We have no idea of how he will succeed. Compare Villas-Boas who was appointed under the banners of the greatest new manager since ... (he could still be) and others in all sports: Graham Taylor was seen as a second coming (following huge success with Watford and Villa) when he took over at England but failed dismally (with personal criticism heaped on him by the popular press underming his actions).

So until mid-season, we cannot be sure of what will happen. The proof of any coach is uncertain until the season is well under way.

So Veivers, good luck, and my suppport.

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Quote: GT "You make it sound like I've called him a useless, fat, bald c**t or something similar'"


That will be around April when we have lost 18 on the spin icon_wink.gif

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So fingers crossed then for a decent bit of luck with the fixture list then. But saying that if we do get easy teams and then perform poorly then he might not even make it to the end of the season!

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I feel sorry Vievers,I wish him good luck he is going to need it.Let's all be honest,The man his in this position
because of the board's ineptitude.We are a laughing stock,and If you are honest,you know It to.

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