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| Quote: DEVILS2015 "A lot of promises that were made to him when he took over the club.
Not many people know this but the RFL have taken away £50,000 funding per year away from our academy for the next 4 YEARS
Excessive fines just because he's got a few quid. Fielding 14 players fined £15,000 Saints did the same and got fined jack $h1t!
The ridiculous points deduction whats about to take place even though Wigan, Warrington, Catalan and Leeds are all miles over the cap too, or have been in the past but it's been simply swept under the carpet.
Honestly who the hell would even bother putting the money in it must drive you insane with these ar$e holes at Red Hall running the show.'"
You are Marwan Koukash and I claim my £5.00. |
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| Quote: jetblack74 "If you think cockrash is good for this game then your f****n deluded....The sooner that cretin f***s off the better........ ![]()
Where did I say that Koukash is good for the game?
Businessmen like himself and Simon Moran who are pouring millions into the sport are good for the game.
I'll say it again the sports is dependent on MILLIONAIRES money apart from a small amount of self-sustainable clubs, without them we have no game and we certainly won't be able to take the sport to the next level which is what we need to achieve in this country. The growth of Super League is awful compared to the NRL and Rugby Union.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "You are Marwan Koukash and I claim my £5.00.'"
I'm not and you can give me that £5 after Carney scores the winner next Sunday  |
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| Quote: DEVILS2015 "I'm not and you can give me that £5 after Carney scores the winner next Sunday ![]()
Unfortunately I think this is more than likely.
It will certainly be interesting to see how he copes with the reception he will no doubt get from players and fans alike.
Just hope I don't have the pleasepurenormsitting next to Koukash again this year.
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Evening sheriff still getting your jollies out off this
Guess it gives the sixth fingers some exercise
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With all this talk that MK said publicly he would break the salary cap ,I don't ever recall him saying those words.I do remember him saying the cap was too low and he would like to pay his players more. Does anyone remember or have a link?
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| Quote: DEVILS2015 "A lot of promises that were made to him when he took over the club.
Not many people know this but the RFL have taken away £50,000 funding per year away from our academy for the next 4 YEARS
Excessive fines just because he's got a few quid. Fielding 14 players fined £15,000 Saints did the same and got fined jack $h1t!
The ridiculous points deduction whats about to take place even though Wigan, Warrington, Catalan and Leeds are all miles over the cap too, or have been in the past but it's been simply swept under the carpet.
Honestly who the hell would even bother putting the money in it must drive you insane with these ar$e holes at Red Hall running the show.'"
What promises were made? Which ones have not been kept?
Do other clubs get funding for their academy? Is it the same for every club? Why was the funding taken away?
How do you know there will be a ridiculous points deduction? How many points would have to be deducted for it to be ridiculous? Are you the arbiter?
Other clubs may be paying over the cap. You should give your evidence to the RFL.
I presume that the number of points will depend on the severity of the offence. It appears that as at least one player, Tony Puletua, had two contracts one of which was concealed until his tribunal. There would appear to have been some concealment of facts from the RFL. If this apparent dishonest practice is proved I would expect any punishment to be quite severe. I am not aware that such dishonesty has been proved to have occurred in other instances of cap breaking so comparisons of punishment with previous examples of cap breaking would seem to be pointless. |
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oldhamred wrote:
With all this talk that MK said publicly he would break the salary cap ,I don't ever recall him saying those words.I do remember him saying the cap was too low and he would like to pay his players more. Does anyone remember or have a link?
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... an-1876981
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... lford.html
Fair enough . ...Then again, could it actually be proved he said these things. We all know what journalists are like.. |
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oldhamred wrote:
With all this talk that MK said publicly he would break the salary cap ,I don't ever recall him saying those words.I do remember him saying the cap was too low and he would like to pay his players more. Does anyone remember or have a link?
www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... an-1876981
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... lford.html
Fair enough . ...Then again, could it actually be proved he said these things. We all know what journalists are like.. | |
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| Quote: oldhamred "oldhamred wrote:
With all this talk that MK said publicly he would break the salary cap ,I don't ever recall him saying those words.I do remember him saying the cap was too low and he would like to pay his players more. Does anyone remember or have a link?
Owing to the fact Koukash was going to sue Locke, Hock, Puletua, Salford City Council and Leigh I would imagine he would have taken some kind of action if these nationally published direct quotes were inaccurate ( or at least threatened to do so).
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| I think seeing our Cas friends return to these boards, bodes well for the outcome of this particular incident.
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| Quote: TheButcher "I think seeing our Cas friends return to these boards, bodes well for the outcome of this particular incident.
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If only everyone thought my presence bided well for success I would be a rich man.....
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I don't get the 10 page issue. We've broken the cap, it's in black and white and we have to face the consequences. Ultimately it is Marwan Koukash's fault, just as he should be praised for appointing Tim Sheens he should be criticised for breaking operational rules.
We deserve to be punished accordingly and hopefully any such deductions will be similar to those who have done the same before us.
As others have echoed, you could stomach it if we'd been reasonably successful but to break the cap on that bunch of sh*t was a waste.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "I don't get the 10 page issue. We've broken the cap, it's in black and white and we have to face the consequences. Ultimately it is Marwan Koukash's fault, just as he should be praised for appointing Tim Sheens he should be criticised for breaking operational rules.
We deserve to be punished accordingly and hopefully any such deductions will be similar to those who have done the same before us.
As others have echoed, you could stomach it if we'd been reasonably successful but to break the cap on that bunch of sh*t was a waste.'"
Has it been proved that other clubs have been guilty of breaking the cap in the same way that it seems Salford has done? Surely giving at least one player two contracts only one of which appears to have been declared to the RFL is a very serious offence and any punishment should reflect this. Breaches by other clubs cannot be compared without knowing the details of the breaches. Any deductions should only be similar to those who have done the same before you if the offence was similar. |
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I agree, take the punishment.
But what I would do if I were the Doc is name names if he has evidence of other clubs doing this.
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