I agree refn hooker and smith is also too slow and seems past it
Fages seems the part though
Those are the games you need to win to hit the play offs

No word yet, but interestingly it could be the Cas game.

i thought tommy lee had a really good game. lots of question marks around the signing of lee but has been 1 of the better players

You mean you don't like anything that could reduce Saints' standing in the game? Little clubs like Salford should just know their place, eh?



1) We're four games in with a 50% win ratio. Calm down.
2) You only need one exclamation mark. Calm down.

Defensively we always looked frail last night, especially when the ball went out wide. Too many missed / non-attempted tackles. Going forward we just seemed to have no spark or creativity. The biggest worry, though, was the body language. Even when we'd just scored two quick drives the players had their heads down and didn't look up for it. Low on confidence, maybe?

Not time to panic yet, although the next three games do worry me. We just need a bit of spark, hopefully players returning from injury can help provide that.

Once rangi returns you'll score plenty. All the preaseason Tim smith will have been working with rangi, so for him to be missing is throwing a spanner in the works (not that faces is doing bad) but RC is the main man, he's the turkey in your Xmas dinner, the beef in your burger, the toffee on your pudding...and you've had him for 20 mins so far????

*fages.

I can't see what Noble sees in Howarth over Owen either, or why he deems him good enough to start the match. Unfortunately as you Salford fans are probably now aware Noble is very much a coach who has his favourites and those favourites will always play unless injured. Sadly for Salford, Howarth seems to be one of those favourites, and I agree with you that he isn't SL standard. Add to that that he is only playing at hooker as he is physically and skilfully not up to playing stand-off or loose forward and it only makes his selection over an actual hooker worse.

Over the next couple of years Noble will be capable of stabilising you as a 6th to 8th place finishing club and can get you to the latter stages of the cup but you will have to put up with him always choosing his favourites for as long as he is there. Going off your performances so far you seem more destined for 8th to 10th this year rather than 6th to 8th though and if that happens you may not have to put up with Noble's favouritism for that long.

On the bright side the academy had a good win showing some really good prospects for the future. Well done lads.

Strange comment. I was under the impression that the salary cap was there to introduce level playing field as well as stopping clubs going bust.

Saints ain't the team campaigning to abolish the cap and introduce marquee player rules. We believe the future of the game is to Develop youth not to sign 17 superstars from all over the world.


We also didn't vote to scrap the u21s to save £30k a year like Salford.

Hi Chaps Leigh fan here.

I thought it was a great game and a fantastic advert for Super League,

Harrison Hansen was best player on the pitch tonight and ran himself into the ground for 80 mins and looks to be by far your best signing, young Johnson on the wing also showed up well and reminds me of Jason Robinson.

I thought the obvious poor tactic from Noble was the consistent "drop off" pass from the first receiver, the attacking line just looked disjointed and never looked like threatening the Widnes edges.

I Think you will come good though, I like the Doc, I think you threw the ball about much slicker when Sean Long was with you though.

Chins up, your in a much better state than this time last year!

I watched the game on the box last night and it to me is very apparent that we look shockingly low on attacking set plays (maybe due to chase being out but you'd have thought that Theo would be up to speed on them being the first deputy for them both) Smith's drop off ball is so telegraphed it's not that far removed from a hospital ball.

While I'm not a fan of him being in the squad for reasons I've stated before if your going to have someone with the pace of Johnson then you need to utilise his speed, chips over the top must surely be a good option occasionally.

We need to involve Mullaney more in attack ala Patton, we saw with his footwork for Theo's try that he has no little skill in areas other than at the back.

Howarth I'm sorry is now just getting found out, Lee (while most like me didn't see him as the best option to buy in at hooker) offers so much more skill a ruck speed, either try ad get Lee to play 80 minutes or bring one of the younger kids through. And the flop in the first half was the laziest piece of rugby I've seen in an age.

A couple of positives for me was how good Walton looked when he played in the second row, think if ever needed he'd make an excellent #13 and that S'au looks to have trimmed down from the first game and looked eager for the ball, just hope his shoulder injury is nothing serious.

I'm just hoping that Rapira and S'au are fit for next Friday as we are starting to look seriously light on bodies.

yeah we'd just lost mate - doh !!!

Hello Leigh fan.

All very fair comments. Hopefully, the lack of attacking flair is mostly a timing issue, and will improve as the players get used to each other. In that respect, the chopping and changing of the team due to injuries can't be helping. Things are getting pretty bad on that front, and we're having to play players from other clubs who are currently under treatment for a serious eye injury. According to photo and caption in the print edition of this week's Advertiser, Sean Gleeson took a big hit off Saints last week while playing for Salford.

Will we have anyone fit for Friday? Sa’u, Rapira, Mullaney, Tasi, Howarth and Hansen all looked like they picked up injuries of some form or other. Hopefully none of them are too serious as we’re pretty light on numbers as it is.

On reflection of last night we did ok in the middle, our pack was on top for large parts of the game, but we looked clueless in attack. There was no understanding at all between the half backs and for all Theo’s effort, scrambling around, backing up and picking up loose balls etc he didn’t push the team around the park enough - saying that he was the miles better than Smith. Tim Smith was poor again and his kicking game was woeful. Greg Johnson kept us in the game single handily in the first half with 3 try saving tackles and an absolutely outstanding individual try. Hansen ran his blood to water and put in some huge hits, but what disappointed me is, when he put a huge hit on someone in the first half the fans lifted, but the players didn’t respond at all, a hit like that should have sent shockwaves around the rest of the team and got them pumped, it didn’t! And if anyone needed anymore reason as to why I don’t think Howarth is up to it, look no further than yesterday, he was awful! Scapegoat? Nah he’s just crap. Morley and Tasi were good and I like the look of Mullaney. Williams was busy and got through plenty of work I just think we need a little bit more quality. Another major plus was Jason Walton, he was outstanding when he came on.

Anyway – we’ll get there, I think. We need Chase back asap, difficult to say I know, but I think we could have won the game if Chase was playing yesterday.

The only excitement of the first half - apart from the other try - and the individual try from Johnson,of an attacking piece of play,was the kick by Mullaney,which saw Johnson do a startling impression of a speeding bullet,which resulted in the GLDO.
The tactic was never repeated in the second half - which,of course,was lost.

We managed to lose all the second halfs last year when Stu Howarth was not around to be the scapegoat.

Poor display notwithstanding some atrocious decision making by Silverwood.