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I Remember When Sydney died of Sodomy in Singapore,
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| Regarding The Maserati car The Doc bought Niall Evalds for Winning the player of the year award last Season, how much did it cost? I know there a Common site around Eccles Seedley & Weaste
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| Quote: redballoon99 "As long as it ended up going into his bank account,and he declared it to HMRC.
So what's the point in having a salary cap if it can easily be got round?'"
Essentially, goodwill is involved. When Melbourne Storm were found to be running two books and paying their top players in kind with ludicrous gifts, it only came to the attention of the authorities because of a whistleblower.
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| Bungs.
Well it doesnt take Albert Einstein to work out that backhanders have been going on since time immemorial.
Its a fact of life in Rugby League.
Every club has been involved - probably all 3 Divisions.
Players know this situation applies and it is all part of their `deal`.
Anybody disagree? If not time to move on and the Bulls to stay where they are in the Championship.
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953.jpg 2015 - major missed opportunity, 2016 - stronger teams = harder task (no problem there then), 2017 - OMG What now!!!:953.jpg |
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| 5.2.2 c
Marwan is the one and only director of the dormant company that TP was allegedly doing consulting work. Plus that company appears to only have 1000 SRD shares as an asset
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
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| Quote: Early Bath "Bungs.
Well it doesnt take Albert Einstein to work out that backhanders have been going on since time immemorial.
Its a fact of life in Rugby League.
Every club has been involved - probably all 3 Divisions.
Players know this situation applies and it is all part of their `deal`.
Anybody disagree? If not time to move on and the Bulls to stay where they are in the Championship.'"
Agreed, had hoped Leigh would fall on their Arris and Bradford would wipe the floor with them, seems now I've got to hope Halifax or Sheffield do it to them both.
As for the obvious payments off book to players the minute one avenue closes the clubs/owners will just find a different one.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Unlike the Bosman case, no single player can actively claim their rights have been breached (unlike the situation you describe that ultimately led to the Bosman rule). There are lots of examples for individuals having rights breached by over arching organisation agreements
(most recently a class action against 4 tech companies and a non competition agreement in Silicon Valley.) Both the Bosman rule and the mentioned example were also breaching rights of individuals outside of contract. The SC is strictly dealing with individuals IN contract, and you can sign away human rights in contract let alone allow the RFL to assign a number based on salary, appearance, bonuses, years of employment, previous employers etc and as a competition only allow a 25 man squad registered add up to so much.
Those alone make the "rfls comp, rfls rules" applicable here.'"
A single player can actively claim their rights have been breached. Even using the logic you seem to be using here, a player cannot earn say £2m a year. That he could do so doing a different job is irrelevant (or that would make it impossible for any restraint to ever exist in anything)
Besides, even if 'in theory' this didnt impact a players rights, if 'in practice' it did, it could still be ruled an illegal restraint.
The other problem you have is that until a players contract is registered, he cannot have acquiesced to any RFL stipulation because he cannot have a playing contract, nor can he be a player under RFL rules. Because the RFL have no agreement with him, they are refusing to do so. The SC does not strictly deal with players in contract, it strictly doesnt, it strictly deals with players not in contract. Because thats what the SC deals with, new contracts, not existing ones.
It is far close to Bosman than you imagine, the issue with Bosman was he was a player, out of contract, who couldnt transfer his registration because of a restriction imposed by Fifa. If Salford were to offer me X amount and that contract were to take me over the SC so the RFL refused my registration, i would be a player, out of contract, who couldnt transfer his registration because of a restriction imposed by fifa.
Should the SC be found legal, its reasoning would be that it is pro-competitive, those arguments are hard to make when you look at the actual recent history of the game.
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| Quote: Early Bath "Bungs.
Well it doesnt take Albert Einstein to work out that backhanders have been going on since time immemorial.
Its a fact of life in Rugby League.
Every club has been involved - probably all 3 Divisions.
Players know this situation applies and it is all part of their `deal`.
Anybody disagree? If not time to move on and the Bulls to stay where they are in the Championship.'"
Absolutely correct. I’m pretty certain that technically every club will have broke the rules in some way, however small. For instance take Warrington, it’s fairly common knowledge their players are privileged to get concert tickets from a club director who happens to be a music promoter. Where does the line stop with these rules? A Wembley or Grand Final celebration party dinner, a trip to the races, a few hundred quid in the pot towards mad Monday or even a free beer? Rules are rules aren’t they? The holier-than-thou, high ground stance from some people is laughable. If somebody stole a pound or a million pounds they are still a thief.
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| Just seen a Marwan tweet mentioning 2 tribunals and 2 fines this morning.
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| Quote: theredshed "Absolutely correct. I’m pretty certain that technically every club will have broke the rules in some way, however small. For instance take Warrington, it’s fairly common knowledge their players are privileged to get concert tickets from a club director who happens to be a music promoter. Where does the line stop with these rules? A Wembley or Grand Final celebration party dinner, a trip to the races, a few hundred quid in the pot towards mad Monday or even a free beer? Rules are rules aren’t they? The holier-than-thou, high ground stance from some people is laughable. If somebody stole a pound or a million pounds they are still a thief.'"
Yes and obviously some clubs have been more successful than others. And no doubt more successful at covering their tracks.
In terms of our progress this goes under the category of 'typical Salford' as it has been about as worthwhile as the people who were prosecuted for looting in the Manchester riots of 2011 who came away from a supermarket break in with a family bag of Monster Munch.
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| Demon you got the details of that Tweet by the doc mate?
Also, whats gonna happen to the club then if any wrong doing is found to have been carried, are we set for another pointless season?? Ta
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| Quote: redwolf "Also, whats gonna happen to the club then if any wrong doing is found to have been carried, are we set for another pointless season?? Ta'"
The Salford Scene (John Gilbert Reds on here, I believe) is suggesting on twitter that we could potentially face a 20 point reduction.
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| Quote: MarioRugby "The Salford Scene (John Gilbert Reds on here, I believe) is suggesting on twitter that we could potentially face a 20 point reduction.'"
If Salford have a case or cases to answer, it could be one or a combination of sanctions, varying from a slap on the wrist to heavy competition points deductions and suspensions for players and club officials. There are a lot of mitigating factors though (7.12).
Quote: MarioRugby "SUPER LEAGUE SALARY CAP REGULATIONS
E. Investigations/Case to Answer
7.9 … Where an Off Field Operational Rules Tribunal determines that a Salary Cap Offence has been
committed, it shall be entitled to impose any one or more of the following sanctions that it
deems appropriate, having regard to all of the circumstances of the case
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| Quote: MarioRugby "Quote: MarioRugby "Also, whats gonna happen to the club then if any wrong doing is found to have been carried, are we set for another pointless season?? Ta'"
The Salford Scene (John Gilbert Reds on here, I believe) is suggesting on twitter that we could potentially face a 20 point reduction.'"
Neil Barker (Mario Rugby on here) is recycling thoughts of JG from months and months ago.
As an ex MEN reporter & FREE Press Pass to the best seats but now a prominent figure at Leigh (so dismiss the word `we` in his posts) he really should be trying to win friends and influencing people rather than the opposite. Redwolf - take his comments with a pinch of salt.
Neil - you really ought to change your tune - the old days of bashing Salford have gone. Time for you to move on and find another angle elsewhere. Remember you will have to pay like the rest of us to watch Salford from now on.
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| Quote: Early Bath "Neil Barker (Mario Rugby on here) is recycling thoughts of JG from months and months ago.
As an ex MEN reporter & FREE Press Pass to the best seats but now a prominent figure at Leigh (so dismiss the word `we` in his posts) he really should be trying to win friends and influencing people rather than the opposite. Redwolf - take his comments with a pinch of salt.
Neil - you really ought to change your tune - the old days of bashing Salford have gone. Time for you to move on and find another angle elsewhere. Remember you will have to pay like the rest of us to watch Salford from now on.'"
They seek them here,they seek them there.
People seek Mario and/or Neil everywhere.
Are they in Wigan or are they in Leigh.
Are the one liners done for free?
When it comes to Rugby League
They tend to give people severe fatigue
It may change over the years
When the Leigh Business Development ends in tears.
Mario and/or Neil could be out on their ears.
But will the tweets continue to come.
Will we be guaranteed to have some fun.
Reading the reports in the MEN.
That contain more than one line,hopefully ten.
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| Do we have photo of Neil /Mario so we can put up a NOT Wanted post in mock western style around the ground lol
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