it's rather like sitting in the coliseum in Rome watching the christian fighting the lion and waiting for the final killer blow.

The prospect of a sub 2000 crowd vs Crusaders at home on sky should be enough to see him gone, if he doesn't get the boot earlier.

if we get a hammering at wakey on sunday i can see him getting the sack that week! Surely the club cant just sit back and do naff all! I know everyone has blamed Mcrae for not getting the best out of the team etc but what are veivers and alkers role? do they not have a role to play in this?

Mcrae is ultimately taking the full brunt of the critisism from the fans but you have to consider apportioning some blame to the Football Director the other two coaches, the fitness conditioner, the club captain and the playing squad. I' m sure if the team were performing excellently then everybody would want and expect their share of the credit.

I wouldn't class it as a knee jerk reaction to terminate his contract, think that if anyone with the balls at the club sat down with SM and asked him to honestly say if he thinks he's doing a decent job or if the manner in which the team he coaches has performed over the past couple of seasons is exceptable he can only say that it's not.

I say jerk that knee like a Parkinsons sufferer before we end up with knees like Douglas Barder Just imagine all the free publicity and the tax relief opportunities.

I stand corrected on the first point. Clearly I don't know every supporter but no one in my little group thought he was a good choice. His record of working with lower teams is dreadful. He simply does not add value. I'm not expecting any coach to turn the current squad or previous squads into a competition winning team but I do expect some semblance of effort and teamwork to be instilled.

The only time in recent years when this has happened is when Karl Harrison was in charge. The team had a work ethic and was achieving more than the some of its parts. I don't know what happened and why the culture was allowed to slide back but it should not have been allowed to happen. If players were at fault it is they who should have had their contracts terminated on disciplinary grounds.

The chairman needs to lead from the front. He needs to come out and make a statement that Salford is not a holiday camp or a retirement home. Poor effort and a poor work ethic will not be tolerated. Performance will monitored and contracts will be terminated on the basis that a player showing such an attitude is not delivering their side of the contract.

Supporters need to be reassured that poor performance from neither the coach nor the players will be tolerated. It will be monitored and action taken if improvements in effort are not made. That could result in termination of the contract of anyone shown to be failing in effort or application.

I watched the Hull v Leeds game. The Hull supporters are constantly lobbying for the removal of Agar. God knows what they would be doing if the had to put up with the kind of effort we are being served up with. At least Hull FC players appear to be playing for their coach. Salford's are clearly not playing for theirs.

i've heard from someone who works at the club which is pretty obvious really........ they can't afford to sack the guy and it looks like there going to let his contract run down. They hoped he would of walked but this guy said he's greedy and will just stay for his money.

nothing we didnt already know

As you all know the next three games are Wakey (a) Wigan (h) and Leeds (a). The way your team are playing by the end of the Leeds game your now oints conceded of 98 could well be over 200.
It seems obvious from his track record that he will not resign. Supporters have more sway than you may think and another verbal kicking on his next two home games could well send him packing.

1 win in the last 8 SL games isn't good enough for any coach.
Only at Salford would not sacking him being an issue.

We won 3 out of the last 12 at the end of last season, the season before we won 2 out of the last 14 games.

I can take getting beat, after all we're used to it. It's the lack of progress shown, the lack of ambition in entertaining us lot who help to pay the wages that rankles. Then when he says he doesn't care what people say about him AND the club then I'm sorry but he opens himself up to everything and anything that people want to throw at him.