Wherever salary or other benefits are expressed as being paid, payable or Accruing:
5.2.1
“to a Player”, such expression will be deemed to include payments that are paid, payable or Accrue:
(a) to the Player himself ;
(b) for the benefit of the Player;
(c) to, or for the benefit of, the spouse, partner, relative or trustee of the Player;
(d) to, or for the benefit of, any person or business entity associated directly or indirectly with the Player;
(e) in satisfaction of all or part of a debt owed by the Player;
(f) to, or for the benefit of, a Licensed Player Agent or other Agent for services rendered on behalf of the Player;
(g) at, or pursuant to, the direction of the Player; and/or
(h) such other transactions as the HSCR determines should be treated as payments to a Player;

5.2.2
“by a Club”, such expression shall be deemed to include payments and other benefits that are paid, payable or Accrue:
(a) by the Club itself;
(b) on behalf of the Club;
(c) by, or on behalf of, any person, business or entity associated or affiliated with the Club (including, without limitation, other sporting clubs, whether linked by common management, ownership, control, directorships, company officers, shareholding, undertaking or otherwise);
(d) by, or on behalf of, a sponsor or other commercial partner of the Club; and/or
(e) such other cases as the HSCR determines should be treated as payments by the Club.



So does that mean that a player cannot earn any extra from ANYWHERE over and above his salary from the club?

Just a thought re. Turnover figures.....

I've not seen the financial reports, but wonder whether they show payments to the administrator of the Old Co. for legacy debts?

I'm sure that the RFL pay this directly to the administrator out of Salford's central funding and thus I wonder if any of it (funding in and legacy debt payments out) is recorded in the New Co's accounts?

Just as an aside, looking at those accounts (as a complete novice bearing in mind), although Salford’s total losses in the first two years under Koukash amount to £6.87m, the rate in which the Club is losing money year-on-year has been cut significantlyLeague Weekly[/i (23 November 2015, p.7) salary cap is about £1.65m… I imagine we are still spending the least. I have had a few chats with Marwan about what he is going to spend this year and I think they are in a similar boat with the 50 per cent rule. There will be us [Wakefield] and Salford around that mark, then everybody else gradually stepping up from there up to the big spenders, Wigan, St Helens and Leeds, who probably do spend the cap’.

There's nothing to stop a player busking every Saturday on Salford precinct with a friend of Marwan's generously throwing in the £50 notes. Could work as long as the player doesn't get mugged on the way back to his car



Well that's my point. It would surely be very easy for the extra monies to be paid to a player without it being connected in any way to M.K or anyone else connected directly to the club.
As long as it ended up going into his bank account,and he declared it to HMRC.
So what's the point in having a salary cap if it can easily be got round?

Regarding The Maserati car The Doc bought Niall Evalds for Winning the player of the year award last Season, how much did it cost? I know there a Common site around Eccles Seedley & Weaste

Essentially, goodwill is involved. When Melbourne Storm were found to be running two books and paying their top players in kind with ludicrous gifts, it only came to the attention of the authorities because of a whistleblower.

Bungs.

Well it doesnt take Albert Einstein to work out that backhanders have been going on since time immemorial.

Its a fact of life in Rugby League.

Every club has been involved - probably all 3 Divisions.

Players know this situation applies and it is all part of their `deal`.

Anybody disagree? If not time to move on and the Bulls to stay where they are in the Championship.

5.2.2 c

Marwan is the one and only director of the dormant company that TP was allegedly doing consulting work. Plus that company appears to only have 1000 SRD shares as an asset

Agreed, had hoped Leigh would fall on their Arris and Bradford would wipe the floor with them, seems now I've got to hope Halifax or Sheffield do it to them both.

As for the obvious payments off book to players the minute one avenue closes the clubs/owners will just find a different one.

A single player can actively claim their rights have been breached. Even using the logic you seem to be using here, a player cannot earn say £2m a year. That he could do so doing a different job is irrelevant (or that would make it impossible for any restraint to ever exist in anything)

Besides, even if 'in theory' this didnt impact a players rights, if 'in practice' it did, it could still be ruled an illegal restraint.

The other problem you have is that until a players contract is registered, he cannot have acquiesced to any RFL stipulation because he cannot have a playing contract, nor can he be a player under RFL rules. Because the RFL have no agreement with him, they are refusing to do so. The SC does not strictly deal with players in contract, it strictly doesnt, it strictly deals with players not in contract. Because thats what the SC deals with, new contracts, not existing ones.

It is far close to Bosman than you imagine, the issue with Bosman was he was a player, out of contract, who couldnt transfer his registration because of a restriction imposed by Fifa. If Salford were to offer me X amount and that contract were to take me over the SC so the RFL refused my registration, i would be a player, out of contract, who couldnt transfer his registration because of a restriction imposed by fifa.

Should the SC be found legal, its reasoning would be that it is pro-competitive, those arguments are hard to make when you look at the actual recent history of the game.

Absolutely correct. I’m pretty certain that technically every club will have broke the rules in some way, however small. For instance take Warrington, it’s fairly common knowledge their players are privileged to get concert tickets from a club director who happens to be a music promoter. Where does the line stop with these rules? A Wembley or Grand Final celebration party dinner, a trip to the races, a few hundred quid in the pot towards mad Monday or even a free beer? Rules are rules aren’t they? The holier-than-thou, high ground stance from some people is laughable. If somebody stole a pound or a million pounds they are still a thief.

Just seen a Marwan tweet mentioning 2 tribunals and 2 fines this morning.

Yes and obviously some clubs have been more successful than others. And no doubt more successful at covering their tracks.

In terms of our progress this goes under the category of 'typical Salford' as it has been about as worthwhile as the people who were prosecuted for looting in the Manchester riots of 2011 who came away from a supermarket break in with a family bag of Monster Munch.

Demon you got the details of that Tweet by the doc mate?

Also, whats gonna happen to the club then if any wrong doing is found to have been carried, are we set for another pointless season?? Ta