FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Salford Red Devils > RANGI
103 posts in 8 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, king of the shed
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach340No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15113.gif
:15113.gif



Quote: theredshed "Does anyone know who the disciplinary people are? It has been alleged by many on RL Fans over recent years that they appear biased towards Yorkshire clubs or players? Probably untrue but it would be interesting to see some stats over the previous few seasons to clear it up. Consistency and transparency is all you can ask.'"


Gary Hetherington, Mick Morgan, Geoff Boycott, Garry Schofield, Michael Parkinson, Fred Truman, Alan Bennett and that poet from Barnsley.

RankPostsTeam
International Star519No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Chester J Lampwick "Gary Hetherington, Mick Morgan, Geoff Boycott, Garry Schofield, Michael Parkinson, Fred Truman, Alan Bennett and that poet from Barnsley.'"


rlLinkrl

That's still last years by the looks of it.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2990No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13977_1335458918.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13977.jpg



Hallas & Sculthorpe were both dirty players - Danny especially though a good ball player - seemed to have steel implants in his elbows the way he ran.

Nobby Turley a great bloke and always fair & I would guess Nathan McAvoy wouldnt be against the Reds.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4314
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Sep 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32990_1435324474.jpg
First accept sadness. Realise that without losing 70% of the time, winning wouldn't be such a relief.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32990.jpg



I was reading the Doc's comments in the paper about Huddersfield sending in a medical report to the disciplinary panel and going to the media in an attempt to influence the hearing. It was a very unfortunate incident but for a fellow club to make a deliberate effort to influence the severity of a verdict is something that needs to be outlawed by the RFL. It was a pointless act by the Giants because I've no doubt the disciplinary panel ignored their unnecessary interference anyway. As MK said - Did Salford go public and send Greg Johnson's broken jaw x-ray results to the RFL last year when he copped a high shot against the Giants? No.

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



Quote: andyh0064 "I think if they were ever to move to fixed punishment it would have to be very specific and not blanket punishment.

Punching an unconscious person would need to be a separate rule than punching someone that had just headbutted you for example....And before last years GF who in their right mind would have even thought of that as a rule?!

The scaling punishments seem fine, they just need to be more consistent with their application.'"


As you say fixed punishments would have to be specific, and there would be more controversy if things didn't fit exactly into a description.
There are complaints about inconsistency but What we as fans have to remember is we only get a summary of the disciplinary. We do not get to hear the full submissions by the players involved or the officials report and we don't see all the footage of the incident that the disciplinary see. The poster above claims salford didn't send in medical reports when johnsons jaw was broken? does he know that this wasn't done/ isn't the norm? MK also has a short memory as he quite publicly stated murphy should have been sent off and called it a cheap shot. The disciplinary didn't agree. Maybe more transparency is what we need?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4314
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Sep 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32990_1435324474.jpg
First accept sadness. Realise that without losing 70% of the time, winning wouldn't be such a relief.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32990.jpg



Quote: jools "As you say fixed punishments would have to be specific, and there would be more controversy if things didn't fit exactly into a description.
There are complaints about inconsistency but What we as fans have to remember is we only get a summary of the disciplinary. We do not get to hear the full submissions by the players involved or the officials report and we don't see all the footage of the incident that the disciplinary see. The poster above claims salford didn't send in medical reports when johnsons jaw was broken? does he know that this wasn't done/ isn't the norm? MK also has a short memory as he quite publicly stated murphy should have been sent off and called it a cheap shot. The disciplinary didn't agree. Maybe more transparency is what we need?'"


Do you think it's right that a club should try and influence a verdict? Or should it be left to the disciplinary panel to do their jobs? Yes or no?

RankPostsTeam
International Star519No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



I personally fear more transparency would only make things worse. People will never be satisfied with the disciplinary process, I include myself in that along with every long term fan, transparency will only give us more ammunition. icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



Quote: theredshed "Do you think it's right that a club should try and influence a verdict? Or should it be left to the disciplinary panel to do their jobs?'"


Coaches are well within their rights to comment on events aren't they? Lord knows koukash does it enough- he's commented on events now surely???
Clubs provide evidence- it's part of the process- Hudds will have provided video footage of that and other incidents on the day. Medical reports can provide evidence as to how an injury has occurred. Are they not normally submitted? I don't know. I know medical evidence HAS been used in defence at a disciplinary for a biting charge. They are sometimes submitted in the NRL and the RFU and I seem to remember either wigan or saints having to provide medical reports for an incident a long while ago.
any player up before the disciplinary wouldn't need to attend and explain their actions or put forward mitigating circumstances as surely that is influencing?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach340No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15113.gif
:15113.gif



Quote: Early Bath "Nobby Turley a great bloke and always fair'"


Is it not Neil Turley? Wonder if he got a say in whether Chase played against Leigh in their cup final.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member16601No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2024Nov 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
cartoons/WB181.gif
:cartoons/WB181.gif



Quote: Chester J Lampwick "Gary Hetherington, Mick Morgan, Geoff Boycott, Garry Schofield, Michael Parkinson, Fred Truman, Alan Bennett and that poet from Barnsley.'"


Top, top post Sir

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman4159No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2019Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1602.jpg
Sad preacher nailed upon the coloured door of time; Insane teacher be there reminded of the rhyme. There'll be no mutant enemy we shall certify; Political ends, as sad remains, will die.:1602.jpg



"Coaches are well within their rights to comment on events aren't they? Lord knows koukash does it enough"
he's not a coach: I will accept he does sound off a lot but he's not a coach.

"any player up before the disciplinary wouldn't need to attend and explain their actions or put forward mitigating circumstances as surely that is influencing?" could you explain what you are getting at?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4314
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Sep 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
32990_1435324474.jpg
First accept sadness. Realise that without losing 70% of the time, winning wouldn't be such a relief.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_32990.jpg



Quote: jools "
Clubs provide evidence- it's part of the process- Hudds will have provided video footage of that and other incidents on the day. Medical reports can provide evidence as to how an injury has occurred. Are they not normally submitted? I don't know. '"


No, clubs voluntarily citing players for retributional benefits is not part of the disciplinary process. Any charge against a player is at the full discretion of the RFL officials and should not be influenced by another member club. What would happen if a club provided a false/innaccurate medical report with the aim of getting an opponent player banned for a longer period? By contrast to the Giants actions is was interesting to see how St Helens Chairman Eamonn McManus conducted himself by allowing the RFL to do their jobs and then showing public support for Ben Flower after the hysteria of the Grand Final incident.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5846
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg
Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper. Big Steve wrote: The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them. aboveusonlypie... If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg



Quote: Hillbilly_Red "It's hard to comment when you know a twitter/RLFans storm is brewing. We will miss Chase and the team will suffer from his absence. Whether he meant it or not, I do not knowin reflection wrong but I refuse to be drawn on what he intended to do. That is why we have laws and referees

forum /"fO;r@m/
· n. (pl. forums)
a meeting or medium for an exchange of views.

Hope this helps.. icon_smile.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman2524
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1217.jpg
Knowledge flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings:1217.jpg



Quote: Wigan Peer "forum /"fO;r@m/
· n. (pl. forums)
a meeting or medium for an exchange of views.

Hope this helps..
And with my 'O' Level Latin (failed) - I always thought the plural of forum was fora !

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



Quote: Hillbilly_Red ""Coaches are well within their rights to comment on events aren't they? Lord knows koukash does it enough"
he's not a coach

Surely the purpose of evidence is to influence. If a player is up before the disciplinary he put forward his view which is taken into account- he is therefore influencing the outcome by submitting evidence yes?

Quote: Hillbilly_Red "

No, clubs voluntarily citing players for retributional benefits is not part of the disciplinary process. Any charge against a player is at the full discretion of the RFL officials and should not be influenced by another member club. What would happen if a club provided a false/innaccurate medical report with the aim of getting an opponent player banned for a longer period? By contrast to the Giants actions is was interesting to see how St Helens Chairman Eamonn McManus conducted himself by allowing the RFL to do their jobs and then showing public support for Ben Flower after the hysteria of the Grand Final incident.'"


Are you saying that the said medical report has been filled in by someone from the club and not a medical specialist? In that case that would be a very serious matter. As far as I'm aware any injuries to players have to be reported to the RFL anyway for safeguarding purposes. I doubt very much any specialist would be persuaded to provide a false report - that would be fraud.
You are acting as if no coach /owner has ever commented on an incident before- your own owner did when johnson had his jaw broken- you are also assuming that Saint helens didn't provide a medical report- after all the only reason we are aware that the giants did is because your owner has made a song and dance about it. I'm amazed that you truly believe that a club would commit fraud/ persuade a medical professional to commit fraud in order to influence a disciplinary hearing ....... Just so a player might get a longer ban?

103 posts in 8 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, king of the shed
103 posts in 8 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, king of the shed



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.892578125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
16m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40734
17m
BORED The Band Name Game
Cokey
63223
Recent
Film game
Wanderer
5640
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
27s
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
34s
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
197
36s
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
1m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
1m
2024
Butcher
5
3m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
3m
Pre Season - 2025
mwindass
183
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
492
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
533
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1276
England's Women Demolish The W..
1101
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1343
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1134
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1400
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1933
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2151
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2391
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2198
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2094
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2166
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 2,078 ↑9280,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
16m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40734
17m
BORED The Band Name Game
Cokey
63223
Recent
Film game
Wanderer
5640
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
27s
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
34s
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
197
36s
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
1m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
1m
2024
Butcher
5
3m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
3m
Pre Season - 2025
mwindass
183
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
492
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
533
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1276
England's Women Demolish The W..
1101
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1343
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1134
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1400
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1933
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2151
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2391
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2198
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2094
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2166


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!