You did read the franchise application then? And our competitiors?

I would like to see;

- Salford McRae failure Parish success "same resourses" -

added to that list too though.

My concern is that most people on here seem to be saying MP can't improve on what SMc did without more money?

I don't think it's the case that people blindly defend he Club, they just see things a little more realistically instead of going with their emotional responses. We all sing off the same hymn sheet, we all support our Club. SalfordExUni has a valid point with regards to success and failure. A good two thirds of forum posters disappear when we win games. They are disturbingly absent when something positive happens at the Club, and very rarely offer anything mentally stimulating about anything (Unless you count bloody awful spelling and what appears to be people using keyboards with only 14 keys on them as stimulating.)

What worries me though, is when they do appear they do more harm than good. The only time Mr Barker trawls through our forum is when negativity abounds, which ends up in the local rag, which gets picked-up by National Media. Before you know it, you get more people ranting about something or other and a vicious circle ensues.

If Salford were even marginally more successful, half the posts on here would not exist.

All this nit-picking over things most of us have very very little full knowledge of is probably doing more harm than good.

Ignoring the rest of your post as being irrelevant; there wouldn't be the need for any forum under that pretence.

Could you please elaborate on those who have a more realistic insight as to those who show emotion? Considering you must have more than 26 keys it shouldn't be a problem. Realism, truths and facts have been posted on here albeit with a greater emotion as to those who do actually blindlessly defend the club. I'm confused whether you believe that someone who has been more privvy to information than yourself and others are solely posting high on emotion?

Can anyone point in the direction of a quote from MP where he states he was misled as to the money he'd have to spend, or where he has said that we are in the situation we're in because of a lack of money?

In fact, from the BBC article has been identifying systemic cultural problems at the Club can we put this bowlacks about us being crap because we can't spend as much as others to bed and start concentrating on the reality?

We're being held back by incompetance and lack of ambition far more than we're being held back by a lack of money. Wake up and smell the ing coffee folks.

Well, I've just had my tea and I really can't be bothered.

Is that unemotional enough?

I was making a point about negativity and how it can have further reaching connotations. Thanks for ignoring it, GT is quite right with regards to threads being ignored or strategically nit-picked from both sides. I could ramble on or make another point valid or not, but people see what they want to see and rarely change opinion, and like I said I can't be bothered.

Ex salford uni is a tit.

and yes ive had a beer pm me if u arnt happy

Your a tit too.

Your and him are a right pair

I genuinely would like to meet Michigan Red, Fatboys Limb, exsalford uni and The Butcher to talk about Salford RLFC as their opinions differ so much from mine it would be refreshing to hear what they have to say about the club. I know ex salford uni has been to uni and has got a bird so he might be too important to speak to but if any of the rest fancy a beer or chat at Saints give me a shout.

If you speak to my secretary she'll see if I have an opening

Always happy to speak to intelligent people who you can have a sensible conversation with, to be fair this is the type of thing the club should be encouraging as with limited resources I see it as a way for people with a real passion for the club can maybe find that brainwave that could really help the club.

All this bickering has become senseless, confusing and pointless.
I'm struggling to understand certain contributors standpoint here.
There is no doubt that there are quite a number of intelligent folk who post on here regularly, but instead of decent and relevant conversation, the majority of threads seem to descend into "[imy opinion is more valid and and important than yours[/i"

Good post JJ. Totally agree.

Another valid question ignored by Fatboys Limb. What a surprise.

Like most people I have been somewhat disillusioned this season to the point I was considering not renewing my season ticket next year. I am still undecided but feel more optimistic after the last two days, provided the club take heed of what Matt has said. Everything he said is spot on and reflects everything that has been said on here over the years. Did Robbie Paul not allude to something similar himself. Inparticular the quote about the new stadium is correct. The club seem to think it will solve everything and crowds will come flocking to this huge beacon in the sky. They won't. At the end of the day crowds will come and watch wherever you play if you are producing the goods on the pitch and the club hasn't for some time now. It will be interesting to see how it goes between Matt and Steve Simms for most of the points about recruitment and development must surely stop at Simms' door. I noticed they did not walk on or off together last night. Talking of which a great performance all told and some of the tackling was sensational. All in all Matt has played a blinder the last two days and very cleverley. Basically, if the club don't back him it will suggest they don't want to progress. It was good to see the support he got last night. Here's hoping things can move on in a positive way from here