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Quote: BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff "Did they say this was the correct decision?

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the officials 'got it wrong' because of what happened in the cup...

Well actually there first try shouldn't of been a try according to the commentators on the radio

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Quote: king of the shed "I think that about sums it up for me, a fair review of the match. A poor game played by two poor sides reffed by a poor ref (in a quality stadium mind)

Just a note regarding lying on / holding down (and not being straight at the play the ball for that matter), something someone told me a long time ago, you only ever spot it when it's the opposition doing it and never your own side, funny that. Both team were guilty of it, and believe me I'm furious at the amount of times we did it, but one side was penalised more times for it.

One other reffing issue that drove me mad tonight and has done most of the season, the referee penalised us 3 times for not playing the ball correctly and FC once, now your not telling me that on only 4 occasions this evening the ball wasn't played correctly, either they penalise them all or none at all, it's just slowing the game down.

I thought we did some good things tonight with ball in hand and defended really well for long periods but we just lack some class and speed out wide on attack.

Saying that, and I know all teams go through it, without Adamson, Parker, Talau, White and Ratchford then having to move to centre, in a squad as small as ours we are always going to struggle <----not an excuse BTW. A few decent performances IMO tonight, Henry, Cashmere, Goulding to name a few.

As for FC, well I can't work you lot out, you've good players and good young players at that, but you look to lack a leader and at times were very pedestrian and a little clueless if you don't mind me saying. Is it coaching or the players?

If either team had met a good side tonight we'd have been hammered i'm sure you'll all agree.'"


It was a very poor game, especially the 1st half and given our inability to keep hold of the ball and some of the ridiculous decisions we made towards the end, I don't think we would have deserved to win.

I thought we were quite unlucky with some of the refereeing decisions and most 50/50 calls seemed to go against us almost every time. And like you said we were pinged on several occasions for slowing the game down but both teams were guilty of it.

The incorrect play the ball thing is completely pedantic and a rule that really annoys me sometimes. There's a large number of incorrect play the balls in every game if you're going by the letter of the law. The rule should only be enforced when teams are using it to their advantage as a quick play the ball, not when a player has been held down and all the players are pretty much back in the defensive line.

I don't know whether it was our good defence or Hull's complete inability to do anything on our line but to only concede 14 points given the sheer amount of possession they had, we did quite well and I did think that our goalline defence at times was very good.

Some of our decisions towards the end were confusing to say the least. What exactly were Wilshere and Alker doing kicking the ball that early in the tackle count I don't know.

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Quote: Adamjk "It was a very poor game, especially the 1st half and given our inability to keep hold of the ball and some of the ridiculous decisions we made towards the end, I don't think we would have deserved to win.

I thought we were quite unlucky with some of the refereeing decisions and most 50/50 calls seemed to go against us almost every time. And like you said we were pinged on several occasions for slowing the game down but both teams were guilty of it.

The incorrect play the ball thing is completely pedantic and a rule that really annoys me sometimes. There's a large number of incorrect play the balls in every game if you're going by the letter of the law. The rule should only be enforced when teams are using it to their advantage as a quick play the ball, not when a player has been held down and all the players are pretty much back in the defensive line.

I don't know whether it was our good defence or Hull's complete inability to do anything on our line but to only concede 14 points given the sheer amount of possession they had, we did quite well and I did think that our goalline defence at times was very good.

Some of our decisions towards the end were confusing to say the least. What exactly were Wilshere and Alker doing kicking the ball that early in the tackle count I don't know.'"


That about sums it up mate.We have no impact in the danger area.

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I honestly didn't think the game was as poor as some people are saying. I know it was never inspirational, but there were two teams out there last night that defended very well.

Both teams are rather limited on attack. Hull played a slightly more expansive game and were much more organised on defence as their line moved up much faster than ours did. (No surprise there then!) Their kick and chase game was better than ours too. We made too many handling errors and when we failed to find touch from one of our penalties that just about summed up the night!! Talk about self inflicted wounds!

Both sides were guilty of trying to slow down the play the balls - but it seemed to me that one side got penalised more for it.

We struggle to cope with injuries and missed Adamson, Talau and Parker. We need to sort out the centre positions. Are Goulding and Henry centres or wingers? Are they wingers because we've got nobody else?

I thought that Littler was one of our better performers last night - and there's no way he 's a second row forward. Our pack was out-muscled but we showed a lot of guts in standing up to their bigger pack and we did very well with our try line defence.

I do think we have made some progress this season, though not as much as all of us would have wanted.

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Got to agree our complete lack of ability to break the opponents down on there own try line is awefull, we just dont look like scoring.

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Quote: RedDave "We need to sort out the centre positions. Are Goulding and Henry centres or wingers? Are they wingers because we've got nobody else?'"


Goulding is definately an out and out centre and has hardly ever played on the wing until coming to Salford. Henry can also play centre but as also played a lot of wing. With Talau injured they are our best 2 centres but the problem is we have no wingers so they are also the best 2 wingers. We have people that can fill in at centre but have no one that can play on the wing, hence why they are playing there. Saying that they are both doing a good job there but it is a pity we have no wingers so they can go in the centres.

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Quote: cherrydevil "Goulding is definately an out and out centre and has hardly ever played on the wing until coming to Salford. Henry can also play centre but as also played a lot of wing. With Talau injured they are our best 2 centres but the problem is we have no wingers so they are also the best 2 wingers. We have people that can fill in at centre but have no one that can play on the wing, hence why they are playing there. Saying that they are both doing a good job there but it is a pity we have no wingers so they can go in the centres.'"


No chance of Eddie Vaughan the full back from the reserves getting a run out? Had a decent game at Hull today apparently (Salford won 36-30). Could give him a game at full back, Wilshire/Henry on the wings and Goulding/Turner in the centres.

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