Almost word for word from the MEN.

The sticker key pad was the very nice Eccles cake I was eating.

Ps love the high esteem you have of yourself shame I and POSSIBLY others can't share it

And the MEN are right (it's as if they consulted a legal firm about the proposals).

Ironic you and the MEN are on the same page

In these parts some look on it as something you cut into little squares and put on a nail for when you wipe your ---- (redacted for legals benefit)

But a very appropriate link

Quote: Michigan red "I don't want the Doc to over indulge later in a bottle of pop and start ranting about it but I'd feel easier if the club in at least some small way they are dealing with it.'" Knock yourself out :- https://twitter.com/drmarwanK/status/706241402481602561

Quote: Michigan red "I don't want the Doc to over indulge later in a bottle of pop and start ranting about it but I'd feel easier if the club in at least some small way they are dealing with it.'" Knock yourself out :- https://twitter.com/drmarwanK/status/706241402481602561

I've defended the doc in the past for what he's brought to our club and the sport in general, but when he does this I can't as it ultimately has a negative impact on the club.

Yes the Doc is a controversial character and doesn't give a flying Fc*uk what the RFL or other owners think of him, but at the end of the day he's putting by far the most money into the Sport and without him Salford would be in the Championship with only a dream of getting back into the Super League.

Despite all the off the field controversies and unfair treatment by the RFL, he's still not giving up and has attracted the most high profile coach in the game to the club Tim Sheens. I would say we've got the best team of players we've ever had and over the next 3 years we will undoubted turn into a top 6 side.

The RFL have to be very carefully with Koukash, if they him off enough, he will leave and it's going to have an adverse effect on attracting future investment to the sport.

How many clubs in Super League make a profit every year? 4? That means that the sport is ultimately dependent on wealthy fans like Koukash who decided to invest in there favorite club. Don't off the people who are putting their money in and who are more powerful than the people who run the game ie Nigel Wood and Blake Solly it will bite you in the !

So you think the game should be beholden to a few wealthy owners and their whims? That doesn't sound like a good plan for long term stability

Seems a bit rubbish that it will affect the current squad, especially since they've been one of the teams that have shaken up the beginning of this season and made the comp more interesting, turning over some of the "big" teams.
For me, if the allegations are true, any punishment should be on the owner (and/or whoever else was part of any arrangement devised to bypass the rules).
In racing, for instance, there are punishments that bar individuals from being involved in the sport for x years.

The Doc has obviously been reamed (to the point of prolapse no doubt) over the last few seasons buy fancy dan players, agents, advisers and in SOME cases by the RFL, you would wonder if the powers that be now take a line that as a business man he has lost what he cherishes most IE series amounts of money and levies at him/the club a less punitive punishment with a private any more and we pull the rug from under you.

I would also love to know who has been advising the Doc during all this, you can bet they have a pretty penny for this advice despite it on the surface being dubious to say the least.

What unfair treatment by the RFL are you referring to?

I know this might be controversial, but has anyone found anywhere where the RFL have stated the maximum penalty is 20 points?
The only thing I can see is that the RFL have stated is that they have "issued charges in relation to alleged breaches" of the salary cap. Notice the plural.
Now, my understanding (which is just MY understanding and might not be correct) is that each charge will carry a maximum penalty of 20 points.
So, if there are two charges (one for breaching the cap in 2014 and one for doing so in 2015) and each offence carries a maximum points dedication of 20 points, this is a possible total of 40 points.
Additionally, if there is a seperate charge for making undisclosed payments to players (which is a different operational rule from actually breaching the cap financially) there could be further deductions. For each player the club have paid outside the operational rules there could be a further 20 point penalty. So (just hypothetically of course) if payments outside the operational rules have been made to Puletua, Chase, Locke, Tim Smith and Hock that could potentially be a total further deduction of 100 points (we are up to 140 points so far).

I know it's unlikely, but they only FACTS we know are that there is more than one offence and every offence of breaching the operational rules carries a maximum deduction of 20 points.

If you think cockrash is good for this game then your f****n deluded....The sooner that cretin f***s off the better........

I think the Sports governing body should understand that the clubs are ultimately dependent on rich owners like Koukash, Beaumont, Pearson etc. There's only about 4/5 clubs that are self sustainable, if the RFL keep screwing over the people who are putting the most money into the game they will lose out on future investment in the Sports.

Hypothetically Marwan Koukash comes out of Salford now and goes to the press and claims he has lost £5m trying to do his best to help the game of RL but ultimately failed in the process. When someone with a few quids fancies financially supporting their club in the future they may see that and think twice before putting their hard earned cash in.

A lot of promises that were made to him when he took over the club.

Not many people know this but the RFL have taken away £50,000 funding per year away from our academy for the next 4 YEARS

Excessive fines just because he's got a few quid. Fielding 14 players fined £15,000 Saints did the same and got fined jack $h1t!

The ridiculous points deduction whats about to take place even though Wigan, Warrington, Catalan and Leeds are all miles over the cap too, or have been in the past but it's been simply swept under the carpet.

Honestly who the hell would even bother putting the money in it must drive you insane with these ar$e holes at Red Hall running the show.