I don't agree as regards nothing to play for. Good performances attract a crowd, it's no good waiting for next year..I also agree that the marketing has dropped off etc and on perusing other boards in particular hull FCC s for there game against wires they had an offer on for £5 entrance fee. They are only 2 places above us and they managed to attract of 12000 so let's make an effort and let's have some promotional offers on in order to attract a larger audience.

Don't agree with reduced offers or freebies, slap in the face for season ticket holders.
Perhaps offers for schoolchildren taking their mums and dads

Still maintain no child under the age of 14 should pay too watch any RL game, as long as they attend with an adult.

I know it's a cliche but they are the future, get them involved with the club when it's future is starting to look rosy and hopefully sucssess on the field is just about too start and they will be fans for life. Also there are players kids will love, someone like Junior Sa'u and his ability to steamroller people, Tasi and his massive (occasionally mis timed) hits and then the speedsters like Locke and MCB.

A bigger slap in the face is for those season ticket holders to look at half empty stands and realise that the money they pay isn't anywhere near enough to sustain the level of rugby they want. So, how do you attract potential new season ticket holders? You have to give them a reason to attend, and reduced prices for newbies is one way of doing it.

Good idea re the children trying to entice parents etc but we need to get them involved and attending in the first instance. I also agree that I don't want to see 100,s of kids just jumping about and not taking any interest in the game, so what about organised school trips via the high schools, accompanied by parents. I also don't want the freebies and I understand entirely re season ticket holders being upset and we do not want to devalue the product. It is a very fine balance but doing nothing will only see empty seats until we are consistently winning and giving hope to the faithful that turn up week in week out. I know the location and road works in and around the area also contribute to our problems but if we don't do something and I suppose payback dr k,s investment then I can see him getting really pee,d off as he is not a patient man. Harris appears to be getting his own team together and time will tell. What we lacked early in the season was pace and watching the Hudds game we seem to have got that and something to shout for at long last. I

I think the club are doing the right thing in terms of crowds.

We've given away thousands of tickets in the past and all it has done is cheapen the product we've got to offer and cost the club money. Better to have 5k fans paying full price then 10k getting in for next to nothing. The stands may look fuller and it may make us feel better but if its not increasing the revenue we bring in what's the point? Cheap/free tickets generally just end up in the hands of people who would come anyway.

I also think this push for more marketing is a bit of red herring as well. We've currently got the biggest "personality" in the sport as chairman. He's in every newspaper and on every programme. People know we exist, where and when we play, they are just choosing not to come because we are not very good. At the start of the year they turned up because there was the chance we might end up being good but that quickly fizzled away and consequently the crowds dropped. It's a really simple idea, win more games of rugby league than you lose and crowds will increase.

If we were playing Real Madrid tomorrow at short notice the ground would be full, it's not a lack of awareness that's killing us it's a poor product. If next season goes as we hope then crowds will increase (as they have this year).

I've seen a couple of other clubs selling tickets on groupon 2 for 1s etc. Is this a worthwhile avenue? Even if you don't sell massive amounts how many people get the emails? It gets the name out there. And now (touch wood) the team seem to have gelled the future's starting to look bright so we should be able to hopefully keep a few people interested. I remember a few seasons ago the club doing something similar on some random groupon style site that I'd never even heard of and you had to properly search on there for the Salford tickets. Might it be worth investing in a front page groupon ad/ticket sales or is groupon not as big as it once was?

Here s me harping on about offers etc, just been for my tickets and free child ticket for every paying adult so me and my son a going..the girl selling the tickets had forgotten about the offer until I told her what tickets I required..all I'm saying is that if there is something on offer then let's tell people and publish it more on the website/Manchester evening news etc. I agree with most of the comments and no it is difficult to please everyone but the bottom line is, keep winning and the fans will come and watch...Simple.

I'd agree with this. I've seen a discussion on Twitter prompted by an article on Total RL about how to increase crowds and talk of the missing thousands from the last game at the Willows and the start of this season. It's simple - the crowd for the Wakefield game were people expecting the dawn of a bright new era and a winning team. That hasn't happened yet, so they've fallen away. The crowd at the Willows will have included them along with people who only ever have passing or no interest in Salford generally, but just wanted to say "I was there" for the last ever game.

Get it right on the pitch and it will start to work off the pitch as well. Patience is what everyone needs, from Chairman to average supporter.

Any comparison based on the last game at The Willows is crazy. That was a one-off event. Comparisons should be made on averages and in the last few years at The Willows they were shocking and inflated as we now well know.

The £5 fee was for passholders only to bring a friend for £5

It depends who you're trying to attract. If you want to bring back the fair weather fans who only follow the club when we're winning, and who will possibly disappear again when we stop winning, then you need to provide them with a winning team. If you want to attract completely new people, then you need to offer tasters, like cheap tickets.

We have got more chance of attracting back lapsed fans who got tired of the grinding years of misery than of attracting completely new people who have not previously shown any interest in rugby league.

Fair weather fans may well disappear again if things turn sour but if we give them a couple of years of success we can quickly build up our hardcore from 3k to 5k. More so, how do we go about finding these completely new people to make sure cheap tickets only reach the right hands?

In reality the lines are a lot more blurred in terms of deciding who is a new fan and who is lapsed and any cheap tickets etc is just tinkering round the edges. We saw at the start of the year that when things looked rosy people start finding reasons to come as opposed to find reasons to stay away. The same will happen at the start of next year you'd hope but we need to sustain it.

Important is a good end to the season, carry on playing the same style of winning rugby we saw last weekend and it offers a catalyst for next season and makes the club a much more attractive and marketable proposition.

Doubt there can be any type of big name signing left unless we pull an RU player out of the bag so there can be no naming anyone huge on the day season tickets go on sale again like this season.

We'll be good for the odd one off decent crowd at Barton, however I fear we'll struggle to get big crowds on a regular basis, mainly due to the fact we've built a ground in the middle of nowhere.