Look no further than the BBC for proof of that!!!!!

Dirty old town,written by Ewan Maccoll, Salford lad,one line written,Smelled the smoke on the Salford wind, the song was written in reference to SALFORD and the angry young men,anything else you leeches want to take or try to take away from us,like our game or maybe even the ground we play in.Drink with you lot,yeah right.

Shark J writes a constructive post.
I've been a Salford supporter for 50 years,born and bred in Salford, but I went a few times to watch Sale at Heywood Road.
Supporters were same as us really,just reflecting a different catchment area.
It's a done deal so we should approach it positively.
The glass is half full

Do you scream yourself to sleep every night?

Yeah, singing dirty old town and if that does`nt work matchstalk men and matchstalk cats and dogs,and if that does`nt work i read your posts,that always does the trick.

Prestwich

Just why is liking theatre reinforcing stereotypes? I work in one.

Are you suggesting the league supporters are incapable of liking theatre?

And I'm not really sure why it's an offence in not knowing that salford has a football club. I'm sure that there are a large number of things which i don't know about Salford - and everywhere else for that matter, whether I live there or not.

You suggest that I should have found out whether Salford has a football team? Why?

Should I also find out if they have a pool club, a synchronised swimming club, a bar billiards club, a hockey club, a crown green bowls club - none of which I am ever likely to use?

And where have I ever said or implied that I dislike what I see in Salford? I've worked there, and I go there a fair bit even though now retired. I don't dislike any of it.

Hang about wasn't it only in the 1980's when Rugby Union were still banning players from their sport for life if they had played rugby league?

Taken from the Official Twickers site

[uAmateurism in rugby football (after the great split of 1895)[/u
Rugby union would officially remain an amateur sport for the next 100 years.

The union authorities placed severe sanctions on associations with rugby league. Even playing an amateur rugby league game was sufficient to receive a ban from rugby union.

Union players who went to play professional league were banned for life, even from attending rugby union matches as supporters.

Payment for expenses was often permitted, however. The ‘amateur’ 1908 Australian rugby union tourists to the British Isles received payment of 21 shillings a week.

This was more than twice the amount that players on the following season's ‘professional’ Great Britain rugby league tour of Australia received as weekly wages!

Ave It,i had a young lad playing for me when i was coaching a local amateur league team who was threatened by his headmaster that if he carried on playing league in his free time,he would be banned from taking part in any sport at his school,footbball? ok,basketball? ok just not Rugby league as they played union at their school.That was in the late 90s.The stories go on and on about their goings on,but now its all forgotten,well it ai`nt in my eyes.

To you Sale guys..............I'll tell you why I'm a 'dinosaur', and why I still care about what happened in my Great Grandfather's time.

Because Rugby Union and the Establishment in general shafted 'working class' people then and continue to shaft them to this day.
That is, if there were enough jobs to constitute a working class! A government run by fooking Old Etonians and Oxbridge Graduates.

We're all in it together? Fookin' Bollox, neither in government or rugby.

Rugby Union in the north of england has, and always will represent 'the establishment'. It runs far deeper than mere sport. Anyone who is aware of cultural history will be aware of it.

Hence the examples on this board about the BBC and Univerisities' attitude towards our sport and our demography. One of superiority and condesention.

...............and when, if ever, did a smokey wind blow through the leafy suburbs of Cheshire?

Have you ever wondered why the Catalan Dragons are so welcome in our League?.....................During the war the game of Rugby League was banned by the Vichy government as being representative of subversives. After the war, 'Our' game was not allowed to use the word 'Rugby', hence RL was known as Jeux a treize (Game for thirteen).

History runs deep and for good reason. We would be fools to forget it. Unfortunately, Salford RL is run by fools and the major reason we find ourselves in the current unenviable position.

I too would want us to own & be the sole tenant of the Salford City red stadium. Our club has been dying a slow death, we needed a partner not the perfect partner but one that watches & understands the type of game we play.
I am a Salford fan of 30 odd years but welcome Sale & hope we can attract new supporters for our club, if we don't it is because people don't think our game is good enough.
Too many go on about how good our game is, well if it that good we have nothing to worry about.

I know the history of Salford, likewise Swinton, Oldham Rochdale to name a few, all have proud histories but were unable to achieve, just take a look at the clubs now. Some on the forum criticizing every word spoken when discussing or debating with Sale, tell me the alternative master plan? How the working man stereotypes himself, no wonder down south they think we all have flat caps & clogs. If any of our fans watch football you just might be stood next a person from Sale, you know the one with two heads & he says tally ho. The same people criticizing the club for moving please tell me how you would have kept the club at the top playing from the willows & where you think we would have been in 5 years even less?

No I am not happy with what as happened to our great club, but I am prepared not to live in the past & move forward in a difficult times, where companies sports clubs bigger than the mighty Salford, are going under at the rate of knots. We have a chance to embrace the opportunity, Maybe we will attract Sale fans to watch our great game, after all we believe Rugby league to be a far superior game than union.
Standby for trying to remain positive!!

Quality,