We are so predictable even Mystic Meg could predict how we are going to play.

Been the same since he came.
He is squeezing any flair and skill out of players with his slow run into the markers hopeful punt style of play.
Check how many games have been in won in SL with the slug in charge,it is shocking.

i have just watched (on another thread) when we beat wigan in the challenge cup in 1996 (14 years ago!!) . How i wish we could be anyway near as good as that at present any chance we could persuade Mark Lee out of retirement we did the basic things right i.e backing up and try to pass the ball when being tackled , grubber kicks near the try line etc. if only we could add some flair/quickness/initiative to our play (our defence was much improved against leeds and bradford) and with our squad im sorry but we should have this.My opinion is its not a case of a squad with limited resourses but a coaching set up not getting the best out of it as do wakefield , castleford,crusaders etc.

I do feel this part of our games need improving, the lack of dummy runners is a concern but to be fair the same question could be where are all the support runners, the only difference between a dummy runner and a support runner is one gets the ball and one doesnt.

For me its more about players being "active" and "not active" in an attacking move do they feel they have enough in the tank (to run thou as a dummy runner, turn round run back (avoid being caught obstructing the next play of the ball) and get into position to be part of the next move) If your willing to give that extra 10% and get back on side and in position for the next play you will get your rewards in this area.



We are unable to complete the job as we cough up the ball in silly ways, or give penalities away unnessesarly, If they just concentrated on keeping the pressure on our opponents rather than releasing the pressure valve with a poor kick or a penality our success rate would be higher.

Teams do it to us all the time, they know we'll "bottle" it when push comes to shove because the players mentally struggle to handle the pressure of superleague rugby

In particular the campaign in the National League where we ground out results every week through our superior strength and fitness. I watched Barrow v Leigh last week and even though Barrow didnt play very well, they were ambitious in attack and spread the ball at every opportunity. Proved to be an entertaining game to watch.

Its all about not turning the ball over in silly areas of the field, play your sets out and force an error, when you get a chance take it, its simple (straight out of the Odsal Red school of coaching that one ).

Id take salford winning a dull uneventful match over salford losing a fast flowing entertaining game of Rugby league

I would take us just winning at the mo
13 games since a win paints it own sad story, boring rugby,no flair need I go on.
I carry on going in the hope that someday just someday we might come good.
McRae is really trying my patience though

Can't wait to hear another set of excuses.

The facts don't lie.......................WE ARE ROCK BOTTOM.................and deservedly so!!!

The club cannot afford to sack him, he should do the honourable thing and walk.

Sad to say that I cannot see a way out of this.

I'm embarassed by the ground, the support, and today, the performance of every single player.

Unfortunately the fans who care can only stand and watch, but this evening I'm very annoyed at what I have seen.

i didn't join in the boo's tonight because i dont think it helps any but the 2 games this season when you'd say we've got a great chance to win, the players just havn't performed. Ratchford has just gone backwards i think and holdsworth just doesn't seem the same player that i seen at hull kr and against celtic! Think his best position has got to be loose forward coz scrum half just isn't working for me!

It was not a good peformance. Mcrae does seriously need to consider if his role as coach is in the best interest of the club. I will however continue to support MY team 100 percent , unlike the utter shower of s@*t singing in the middle of the shed , how these people think that the songs they sing are clever , beneficial or influential are totally deluded. Support is what is needed , a young team low on confidence need our support through what is going to be a hard season.

COME ON REDS.

It would help if the rest of the team didn't stand watching him and tried running off him and giving him options.

i'm not having a go at him, i think he is a class player but doesn't seem to have much of an influence at scrum half! True about the players around him giving him options but he isn't running at the line much either trying to create something. Once again our kicking game was terrible.

Shaun McRae once got very upset when defeated his St Helens team. Seems he is now finally getting his revenge. There are young players whose whole careers rest on his decisions.

Is it McRae's fault though.

We have a hooker who takes our forwards backwards and a centre who was never good enough to play in the super league still with the club 10 years later. McRae needs to grow a set and get Alker and Littler out of the team. His tactics against bigger teams, although negative, don't seem to bad. In the games we need to be winning he has come up woefully short. If we don't have the muscle in the forwards then we need to move the ball. Here lies the Alker problem again his play the ball is so slow that our forwards are getting clobbered and gives the opposition far too much time to rush forward, so we have no hope of moving the ball out wide.