FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Salford Red Devils > Salary Cap breach
145 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, king of the shed
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2833No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



IF the allegations are proven, the maximum points deduction is 20 points. However, this is based on the assumption that the live cap would make breaches immediately obvious.
However, is it 20 points per breach, and therefore 40 points in this case as the cap was breached in two seasons?
Whatever happens, it will be interesting to see if when any points deduction is made. My guess it that whatever the total, a proportion will be applied to the first phase of the season and then some applied to the super eights second phase.
It's certainly going to be interesting to see how the RFL deal with it, IF it is proven.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman2524
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: nottinghamtiger "...........Whatever happens, it will be interesting to see if when any points deduction is made. My guess it that whatever the total, a proportion will be applied to the first phase of the season and then some applied to the super eights second phase.
It's certainly going to be interesting to see how the RFL deal with it, IF it is proven.'"


If the club is found guilty and a points deduction were made in the manner you describe then wouldn't that be the RFL changing the rules of the competition AFTER the competition had started? Where would the Justice be in that?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2833No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: BartonFlyer "If the club is found guilty and a points deduction were made in the manner you describe then wouldn't that be the RFL changing the rules of the competition AFTER the competition had started? Where would the Justice be in that?'"


You get the feeling this issue was kind of forgotten when the discussions about the restructuring happened, don't you?!
If all the points were deducted from the first phase it would remove the deterrent of probable relegation as the club would be on a level playing field in the middle 8s, thus the punishment is effectively only results in a bad season.
The problem is (as always) that the RFL tend to make it up as they go along. Points deductions have not been made under the current format yet so there is no precedent.

RankPostsTeam
International Star202No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Oct 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Does anyone know how long this process is likely to take? It is obviously unsettling to the club, it's players and, most of all it's supporters. Clearly unfair if the club is found not guilty, like it has been with the Locke, Puletua and other cases. Just bought and paid for my excursion to Perpignan in April. Was that a waste of money?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach133No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2017Aug 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Ok, so here's the way I see things. Regardless of whether we are guilty or not, this whole thing HAS to be sorted out before the play offs . All teams need to know for certain which comp they are playing in. If we were deducted points , and then won them back later on by appeal , the whole comp would be in jeapordy. If MK then decided to use expensive Lawyers/Barristers etc and take it to the high court citing restriction of trade or some other legal jargon, would the RFL be willing to call his bluff and risk very hefty legal and compensation bills. I think the RFL could be tied up in knots for a very long time . They could end up wishing they had never opened this can of worms..Phil Clarke made a very good point when he said that whoever was supposed to be monitoring the salary cap on an ongoing basis, must have been asleep at the wheel...Could he in turn be open to being sued for negligence?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach10390No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2018Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



What is poor (but sadly lately not surprising) is the lack of acknowledgement from the club of this, no mention of the official site, even if it is just to say the club are aware but will make no further comment.

I don't want the Doc to over indulge later in a bottle of pop and start ranting about it but I'd feel easier if the club in at least some small way they are dealing with it.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2833No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: oldhamred "Phil Clarke made a very good point when he said that whoever was supposed to be monitoring the salary cap on an ongoing basis, must have been asleep at the wheel...Could he in turn be open to being sued for negligence?'"


Phil Clarke is a dipstick.
The thing about this allegation is that Salford were using a SEPERATE company to make payments to players so that it was hidden from the RFL and therefore couldn't be noticed! The RFL simply cannot audit the financial information of independent companies so it would have been impossible for them to spot.
Without the Tony Puletua tribunal they would likely still be none the wiser. The smoking gun was the employment tribunal where it emerged Puletua had two contracts.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner626No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Here comes the the sheriff of Nottingham again.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner626No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Or should it be friar -uck.
Oops sticky keypad.
Have you got any legal advice for us regarding Salford councils decision to ban swearing in parts of Salford.
Being the expert you are I'm sure the good people of Salford would welcome your mostly well occasionally oh ok rarely accurate observations.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2833No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bezzerscr "Or should it be friar -uck.
Oops sticky keypad.
Have you got any legal advice for us regarding Salford councils decision to ban swearing in parts of Salford.
Being the expert you are I'm sure the good people of Salford would welcome your mostly well occasionally oh ok rarely accurate observations.'"


What have you been looking at to get a sticky keypad, then? icon_wink.gif
I have no advice for the people of Salford.
I simply post my thoughts, usually pretty mildly, on an Internet forum. Generally, I'm pretty balanced in what I write and just write what I think. I think most of my contributions are sensible and others are more than welcome to have a different opinion.
PS - I think it I'll be hard to define the term 'foul and abusive language' in a legal sense, and therefore hard to prosecute anyone. Does the language have to be foul AND abusive, or just one of these. I doubt there will be any prosecutions at all.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner626No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Almost word for word from the MEN.

The sticker key pad was the very nice Eccles cake I was eating.

Ps love the high esteem you have of yourself shame I and POSSIBLY others can't share it

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2833No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2022Apr 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bezzerscr "Almost word for word from the MEN.

The sticker key pad was the very nice Eccles cake I was eating.

Ps love the high esteem you have of yourself shame I and POSSIBLY others can't share it'"


And the MEN are right (it's as if they consulted a legal firm about the proposals).

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner626No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Ironic you and the MEN are on the same page

In these parts some look on it as something you cut into little squares and put on a nail for when you wipe your ---- (redacted for legals benefit)

But a very appropriate link

RankPostsTeam
International Star5123
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Michigan red "I don't want the Doc to over indulge later in a bottle of pop and start ranting about it but I'd feel easier if the club in at least some small way they are dealing with it.'"


Knock yourself out :-

https://twitter.com/drmarwanK/status/706241402481602561
Quote: Michigan red "I don't want the Doc to over indulge later in a bottle of pop and start ranting about it but I'd feel easier if the club in at least some small way they are dealing with it.'"


Knock yourself out :-

https://twitter.com/drmarwanK/status/706241402481602561


RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11905No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



145 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, king of the shed
145 posts in 11 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, king of the shed



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


43.640625:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9m
Shopping list for 2025
Hullrealist
5587
31m
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
32m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63260
33m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40792
37m
Film game
Boss Hog
5735
48m
2025 Sqaud
Sadfish
1
Recent
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9s
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
20s
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
20s
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
21s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
24s
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
508
25s
Rumours and signings v9
[Gareth]
28897
36s
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
1m
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
1m
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
188
1m
2025 Shirt
Warrior Wing
20
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Sqaud
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
52
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS