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Yeah kennedy has been great for sale. They average better crowds since playing out of their area proving that there marketing and public relations team are doing an awesome job, especially when 90% of the crowd are Sale supporters due to the locations of travelling supporters mainly coming from down south. Last game Sale played at edgeley park was to exeter, which was watched by nearly 7000 , i imagine 6500 at least would of been supporters of Sale. We get that sort of gate against Wigan and 2000 of them are pie eaters.

Yeah kennedys role with stockport is a total different kettle of fish. They are really in the . This is why i said before kennedy won't buy Salford due to the debt of £4million plus. Thats enough to scare anybody off, no wonder JW would bite any future buyers hand off.

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Quote: Dantes Inferno "Yeah kennedy has been great for sale. They average better crowds since playing out of their area proving that there marketing and public relations team are doing an awesome job, especially when 90% of the crowd are Sale supporters due to the locations of travelling supporters mainly coming from down south. Last game Sale played at edgeley park was to exeter, which was watched by nearly 7000 , i imagine 6500 at least would of been supporters of Sale. We get that sort of gate against Wigan and 2000 of them are pie eaters.

Yeah kennedys role with stockport is a total different kettle of fish. They are really in the poop. This is why i said before kennedy won't buy Salford due to the debt of £4million plus. Thats enough to scare anybody off, no wonder JW would bite any future buyers hand off.[/quote]

I take it you are suggesting that JW and the other directors would want their money back ?

I would doubt that very much , more likely he would only pass on the club to somebody as committed as he has been to the cause of Salford RL , now that person would have to be very rich , so unless you have somebody in mind , you really are just talking bollox

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Quote: mitie mouse "Is this the insults of somebody who as to scrape the barrel to put down someone when they cannot think of a worthwhile thing to write,sad really sad.'"



no not really just someone who is fed up of people who come on here and have a go at JW and are unable to see that without JW whether we have been a YO YO club etc etc we would not be anytype of club just a memory, if people can not see that they really should wake up. The debt is owed to the directors, they have kept the club going not you or me or Joe Bloggs our money is not enough.
Nobody wants to buy Salford so if JW does remove himself one day then we will see what sort of club we will have and we don't have to look far to Oldham, Swinton but some people think that the directors make money on Salford, these people should be writing scripts for Peter Kay because they are very funny.

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KOTS has the latest figures, he informed me Wilko's loan is in excees of just over £500k, with Howard and Ian showing loans of much less. It also shows that the last published figures saw a turnover of over £3m for the financial year. 2009/2010 I think.

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You can't seem to get through to some people on here. All im going to say on the matter, JW is the person who has put us in the 5hit, end of story.

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Quote: Dantes Inferno "You can't seem to get through to some people on here. All im going to say on the matter, JW is the person who has put us in the 5hit, end of story.'"


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Quote: Dantes Inferno "You can't seem to get through to some people on here. All im going to say on the matter, JW is the person who has put us in the 5hit, end of story.'"

Is this your own private vendetta against JW ?
Yes he has made bad decisions in his time at Salford, but the reality is that without his backing the club would have gone under years ago.
Do you honestly think crowds of 3K and Sky money pay the players, coaching staff,administration, electricity,water,groundsman etc in fact a whole host of things that are needed to run a club.
Does it fook.
When Salford have been relegated who kept the wages of players at full time rates ?
Who paid for the free shirts we received each year ?
Obviously you know better and think the money is from tooth fairy or some other mysterious place.
We probably do need a change at the top but until a rich oil sheikh comes along who decides he really likes RL then JW is our only hope.

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Quote: Prestwich Red "Is this your own private vendetta against JW ?
Yes he has made bad decisions in his time at Salford, but the reality is that without his backing the club would have gone under years ago.
Do you honestly think crowds of 3K and Sky money pay the players, coaching staff,administration, electricity,water,groundsman etc in fact a whole host of things that are needed to run a club.
Does it fook.
When Salford have been relegated who kept the wages of players at full time rates ?
Who paid for the free shirts we received each year ?
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Firstly it is'nt a vendetta.

Crowds of 3k...Who's fault is that? Bad marketing and terrible misjudged appointed coaches, a decent chairman would address this issue.
What is it with you wilky a5slickers im sick of reading the club would of gone under if it was'nt for him. Is that all you can come back with, your all blinkered. You all think he is above critisism. How dare we question him.

What has he achieved with Salford?
What improvements as he made?
What plans as he got? Simply keeping the club afloat.

Simply keeping the club afloat is'nt good enough of 29 years in charge. Were a laughing stock of superleague.

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Quote: Dantes Inferno "Firstly it is'nt a vendetta.

Crowds of 3k...Who's fault is that? Bad marketing and terrible misjudged appointed coaches, a decent chairman would address this issue.
What is it with you wilky a5slickers im sick of reading the club would of gone under if it was'nt for him. Is that all you can come back with, your all blinkered. You all think he is above critisism. How dare we question him.

What has he achieved with Salford?
What improvements as he made?
What plans as he got? Simply keeping the club afloat.

Simply keeping the club afloat is'nt good enough of 29 years in charge. Were a laughing stock of superleague.'"

I am not even attempting to answer that load of Drivel.

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Quote: Dantes Inferno "Firstly it is'nt a vendetta.

Crowds of 3k...Who's fault is that? Bad marketing and terrible misjudged appointed coaches, a decent chairman would address this issue.
What is it with you wilky a5slickers im sick of reading the club would of gone under if it was'nt for him. Is that all you can come back with, your all blinkered. You all think he is above critisism. How dare we question him.

What has he achieved with Salford?
What improvements as he made?
What plans as he got? Simply keeping the club afloat.

Simply keeping the club afloat is'nt good enough of 29 years in charge. Were a laughing stock of superleague.'"


Dantes Inferno whoever you are, your regular tirades against the Chairman do give people the impression that you appear to have a personal vendetta against the man for whatever reason.

I for one am grateful to have had John Wilkinson as our chairman for all the years that he has been involved with the club and I also respect him for what he has done for the club and the City and suburbs since 1982.

Yes he has made mistakes and John is the first to admit to making them, yes he supports the staff who he trusts,the man is a top class person who doesn't deserve to be ridiculed by people such as yourself in the way that you have done so.

So keeping the club afloat for 29 years is not sufficient?You clearly have no idea of what the costs are in running a superleague club at the present time.

What about the work done to the Willows with the Austin Trumans stand rebuilt,the shed upgraded, the North stand upgraded ?

What about the new stadium? although owned by the joint venture company would it have been built without the chairman and the board in position.

I find it hard to believe that you are a City Reds supporter who is remotely interested in the clubs position.

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Quote: Dantes Inferno "Firstly it is'nt a vendetta.

Crowds of 3k...Who's fault is that? Bad marketing and terrible misjudged appointed coaches, a decent chairman would address this issue.
What is it with you wilky a5slickers im sick of reading the club would of gone under if it was'nt for him. Is that all you can come back with, your all blinkered. You all think he is above critisism. How dare we question him.

What has he achieved with Salford?
What improvements as he made?
What plans as he got? Simply keeping the club afloat.

Simply keeping the club afloat is'nt good enough of 29 years in charge. Were a laughing stock of superleague.'"


Got to admit I agree with that post, it seems people on this forum believe JW is some sort of messiah!! Since the Snape days what has he achieved at the club? What much resources did he drain into the initial stadium plans only to go bust after the announcement of the franchise! Says all you need to know about his professionalism. What seems apparent it that people think Dantes Inferno has a vendetta against JW, how I see it is, he hasn't once criticized him as a person but as a professional? So why are people getting on their high horse about it? The club is a joke and people need to realise it because of the captain we are a sinking ship! Now if you look at a club like Huddersfield who I sound say in many respects were similar to ourselves, always up and down, low crowds etc. Look what Mr Davey has done for them for a man who loves the club! Comparisons between him and JW could be made and I for one know which one I rather have at the helm!

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Quote: Dantes Inferno "Firstly it is'nt a vendetta.

Crowds of 3k...Who's fault is that? Bad marketing and terrible misjudged appointed coaches, a decent chairman would address this issue.
What is it with you wilky a5slickers im sick of reading the club would of gone under if it was'nt for him. Is that all you can come back with, your all blinkered. You all think he is above critisism. How dare we question him.

What has he achieved with Salford?
What improvements as he made?
What plans as he got? Simply keeping the club afloat.

Simply keeping the club afloat is'nt good enough of 29 years in charge. Were a laughing stock of superleague.'"



How would a decent chairman address this then?? All the marketing in the world won't bring people flooding through the gates if the product we're selling on the field is e.

How does the club pay for better marketing? should it cut the player budget?? No. Should it increase the price on the gate? No.

You say Wilky has got us into this . we very well may be, but thanks to him we're only in it up to the waist, rather than up to our necks in it

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BLACK CAT: Very interested in your comments where the money breaks down into the 4.5million owed!

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Wilky is a gentleman a really nice bloke,that i feel is his failing,i feel he has been advised wrongly from the people he trusts implicitly over and over again,imho he should off got shut of them years ago,but Wilky being Wilky it is`nt going to happen anytime soon.I just hope he has got something up his sleeve to save us from the abyss the club seems to be heading for,it looks like all our eggs are in the stadium basket,i just hope we havent got Frank Spencer carrying it.

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Quote: programmethrower "Got to admit I agree with that post, it seems people on this forum believe JW is some sort of messiah!! Since the Snape days what has he achieved at the club? What much resources did he drain into the initial stadium plans only to go bust after the announcement of the franchise! Says all you need to know about his professionalism. What seems apparent it that people think Dantes Inferno has a vendetta against JW, how I see it is, he hasn't once criticized him as a person but as a professional? So why are people getting on their high horse about it? The club is a joke and people need to realise it because of the captain we are a sinking ship! Now if you look at a club like Huddersfield who I sound say in many respects were similar to ourselves, always up and down, low crowds etc. Look what Mr Davey has done for them for a man who loves the club! Comparisons between him and JW could be made and I for one know which one I rather have at the helm!'"


You are suggesting that Huddersfield are a ' successful ' club ? icon_lol.gif

The only differences between them and Salford is 1 they have had ten years in a new stadium , put them back at Fartown and they'd be worse than you , 2 Mr Davey tips even more money in than Mr Wilkinson

John has made lots of mistakes , but ultimately he has still managed ' just ' to keep you solvent and in the top tier , for that he should be commended , and unless you have a queue of mega rich people knocking down your door , and I don't think you have , he is the person who will have to see you into Barton , wether you and a few others like it or not , that's the way it is

You are essentially a small fish in a big pond , and will most likely remain so for quite some time yet , maybe a relegation would do you good icon_wink.gif

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