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| Quote: eccles star "Tell me where I am wrong'" ]
Impossible. All of the issues you've raised/invented are all a direct result of the club not choosing to play games on your preferred day.
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| Quote: eccles star "Sometimes the truth hurts. Tell me where I am wrong tell me where the club asked supporters what they prefer. The franchise where am I wrong about new supporters. Is it going to be same as last year where they give free tickets out and still can't fill a stadium. Should I say anymore. Even transport to and from ground is rubbish. Results conceding 40 points plus a game why would a fan come. Also how can you get a young kids interested when they kick off friday night. There won't be kids wanting to come in future if there not coming and getting involved because we kick off late. So you all know it alls what marketing have you seen to pull in crowds as its always poor attendances. So what's are selling point then tell one your all experts'"
You do talk a right load of s***, I am sorry to be honest but your ramblings are utter malformation and full of assumptions, I don't finish (with one N) work at 5:00pm on a Friday in fact last Friday I got away at 3:10pm, normally about 4ish. When I was a kid in the 60's I was taken to my first match on a Friday night in 1967 I was nearly 6, I was hooked from the minute I walked into the ground, the old scoreboard about teh tea hut on the north stand and the smells and the atmosphere of the match and the crowd. So as others have said as well as giving the club a wide berth give this site a wide berth as well.
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
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| Quote: Bigpev " So as others have said as well as giving the club a wide berth give this site a wide berth as well.'"
Oiy youi get your own put down and don't plagerise mine
It just occured to me would people in the 70's complain so bitterly about Friday night games when we had the big name stars playing and had as many stars in the crowd? I doubt it.
Think there are way to many people just critisising it for the hell of it rather than having a genuine reason too. I find it highly unlikely that there will be no improvement in public transport on match days to and from the stadium and genuinely think that experience for the family at such a wonderful new stadium will be much better than it has been for many a year and the tired and woefully inadiquate Willows.
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| I am intitled to an opinion. And as a supporter for many years I have more right to have a say as any of you. I feel fans are treated poorly in respect to support fans. I comments might come out strange but I have had a. Stroke and mind does not work as well. So I you want to rip someone to shreds do it for the rightr reasons and understand I have a disability. I have had several grevences with the club with the way you get treated at games and again have more reason than most. The club took my bottled water away from me as can't afford to go to game and pay for drinks at there joke prices. And a so called family club treats you in a way. Diffrent to anyone else. I used to love this club and I have a scrap book to prove -t. Have said for last few years that the club don't care for supporters. Especially the ones who have disabilities. As for everything else I have said is true. The franchise say support needs to increase we have had. 2 licenced. Now and we had one good gate all season . Tell me how a club is going to increase fan base when they treat you with disrespect. So I guarentee I won't be going any more. So before you critisises me understand facts. I even wrote two letters and still waiting a reply. Even though I am disabled I still work so that's why I say its difficult to get to friday games as can't move quick so before yo call me for slating a club I ask you to prove where the club is run well I say where there is no improvement on or off the pitch
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| as a hull fan, its dissapointing to see your club stick to friday nights, instead of sundays, was always a push to get across the m62 and get to the willows for 8pm, not sure how far your new stadium is from the old, will have to rely on sat nav!
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Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
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| Quote: number 6 "as a hull fan, its dissapointing to see your club stick to friday nights, instead of sundays, was always a push to get across the m62 and get to the willows for 8pm, not sure how far your new stadium is from the old, will have to rely on sat nav!'"
200 yards from the M62 A57 junction, ignore all the doom mongers the traffic will be no different to the traffic you have previously hit (or not as the case may be) getting to the Willows.
FWIW I actually agree that the Hull sides games should be played on a Sunday to allow a good traveling support a fair chance of getting to the ground, if London and Les Cats had a bigger traveling support then I'd naturally lump them in that catagory.
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I agree with MR everyone bangs on about the "glory days" of the quality street gang ect but the fact its was friday night nobody seems to mention, i wasnt there i dont know how it worked, i surpose in the 70s less people had cars so rush hour wouldnt take as long that might have had an effect.
Im following / stalking the stadium on twitter and it seems they might be planning some kind of child friendy activities / fun days outside the ground before the game, no times have been mentioned so i have no details but if i was running it id be looking at start about 5:30 finish about 7.30 for the kids, they will be buzzing, gets everyone to the stadium early, have tea from a burger van (friday treat) job is a good one.
Rush hours starts early on a friday so by 6 it might be our traffic which might be the problem (which is a good problem if people are queing to get in)
Has anyone drove down that way around 7 oclock on a friday to see what its like on liverpool road/eccles?
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| well there goes no matches for me again, next season,
i just cant make fri nites, dont finish till 6.30 if i am in the country,
its bad enough on a sun down the A6 into stockporttakes me 1.30 mins to salford from where i live,
friday nite on the M60 from stockport to salford is just a no go, take it from me and im a coach driver, and god help the away fans traveling from yorkshire, they have got no chance down the M62 then onto the M60,
i just do not know what is wrong with sun afternoon, for a so called family club, {u must be joking}
seems to me the club is doing a lot of talking < ie we will lsiten to what the fans say, then totally ignore what they say , and do hat we want and sod the fans, we can get more moneyfrom so called corprate crap.
what happened to the survey on what we want for match days etc,
also reading other posts, on the new ground , i read the only standing at the new ground will be behind the sticks, correct me if im wrong, its been a long time since the plans were anounced for the ground, just a few years??????????
But was the standing section, not going to be opposite the hotel at the side of the ground, ie , sort of where the shed is now, and if i remember right as a season ticket holder a few years ago, i was offered a season ticket for the standing section of the ground,
but once again the club have changed things again,
read a few posts about the new ground, and i think we have seen the demise of the shed as it is now, and unless the shed dont buy season tickets and all STAND behind the sticks as one , there will be no vocal support in the new ground as there was at the willows,
not only that if the salford fans do decide to BOYCOTT the seating areas, and decide to stand behind the sticks, where are the away fans going to go >>?????????
but most of all playing fri nite is a very bad idea for home and away fans unless u live within walking or local bus distance.
apart from that good luck for next season
i may make a match,
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| The Club is missing out on the most important thing this Club needs and that's a significant gate increase. Friday nights will be dead as far as fans and atmosphere go. That's just common sense. I also understand the reasons why the Club need to keep Friday nights from a financial perspective. Attracting back or new support needs a long-term plan and I realise that a lot of that will piggy-back any on-field success. The trouble is, we need a significant increase in crowds as identified by the RFL. The move to the new ground was the perfect opportunity to push really hard on the Family/New/Returning fans and I feel that this simply will not happen on Fridays.
It feels like two fingers to the fans and shows little concern for anything other than the corporate pound. Maybe that is just reality these days but it feels grubby and uncomfortable to me seeing the game I love getting turned into another bland corporate entity.
If the team doesn't hit the ground running next season and build on what will initially be decent crowds due to the curious/newness factor, I fear that we will be playing in a mausoleum by midway through the season.
It's a big gamble by the Club and I have a feeling it will not pay off.
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mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
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| Just been for a bit of a ride and at 14:00 there was significantly more traffic on the M60 near the A57 junction heading towards the Trafford Centre than there was at 19:00 on Friday, yet more proof that this tripe about traffic on the M60 being worse on a Friday than on a Sunday.
Think we all need to give the club the benefit of the doubt until we see what they have lined up for the new stadium, as is said above child friendly activities would be a good start.
They have training pitches you would hope that they utilise them, think when they had the bands on after the final game that was a good idea, there's nothing I can see stopping them useing the artifical pitches for a bit of pre match music or skills coaching from some of the players not taking part in the game.
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| A big mistake this by the club. A new stadium represented the ideal chance to attract fans back along with new ones. Friday nights give no opportunity for people to develop a match day experience. It really is a case of home from work, bite to eat and out. On a Sunday people may have had made a day off it, utilising the new catering facilties and with the right pre-match entertainment and with plenty of time before and after to travel(and of course the most important thing - the right product on the pitch) it represents a chance to build crowds. As it is now the first home game will be in the dark on a doubtless cold February night. Hardly the stuff to introduce and entice fans to the new ground.
It's been interesting to note on here, even from die hard fans, the doubts and concerns about how to get to the new ground, where to park etc. If that is from die hard fans how will casual fans be thinking? The club have sold themselves the myth that people stopped coming to the Willows because it was old and the area in which it was in. That myth was debunked by the Catalans game. People will watch anywhere if the price is right and there is a reason to go. Due to the performances in recent years people have not had that reason. They now think people will flock to the new stadium. Unless performances are right they will not. The ground also lacks the one thing the Willows had - accessibility.
I myself am unsure whether to commit to a season ticket next year now it is Friday's. At the Willows I could be there in fifteen minutes and parked up and home within 30 mins of the game finishing. I cannot see that being the case now.
Has to be Sunday for me. It's alright going on about sponsors etc but where will the sponsors be if the club don't get the gates they hope for and it leads to losing the licence and a place in the Championship?
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| I fully understand why Sunday would be better for people and maybe it would attract a few more away fans but i honestly don't think there would be to much difference in the attendances playing Friday nights. I live in peel green and very rarely experience any traffic problems on Friday nights, the roundabout at brook house will cause a bit of congestion but i don't think it will be as bad as some people are making out. I have a few mates in the area who "say" they are going to go next season on a Friday as its something to do rather than sitting in the star on Liverpool road as they currently do. That game gets played on a Sunday and they wouldn't go, it's all swings and roundabouts for every one person that cant make a Friday game there will be one person that wouldn't go on the Sunday.
I may be wrong but barring the Catalan game i would hazard a guess that attendance when we play on a Sunday haven't been that much better than when we play on a Friday. Also if United play at home on a Sunday that will take a couple of thousand of the radar. It also adds extra traffic around the Trafford area and motorway.
It's got it's ups, it's got it downs, no pleasing everyone im afraid.
Lets just see how it goes but i don't think the attendances we would get on a Sunday would make up for the money we would generate on a Friday by the corporate.
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