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Quote: theredshed "Do we need another prop? To my reckoning we already have 6 or 7 for next year. If you think about it we are only releasing Big Phil and it looks like we are adding Palea'aesina, and Neal has already signed. The back row is a different story where we are actually releasing 3 players and have only signed two replacements to date.'"


Pure speculation until all the signings have been revealed, as we may have another Prop on his way in.

You need 4 impact + 2 understudy's minimal , Sidlow I class as 2nd Row first, filling in a Prop if we're desperate , Rob Parker & Jewitt have had long spells on the treatment table so maybe they're factoring that in .

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The most successful sides have strength in depth in the squad - you WILL get injuries, you must be able to cope - you need a bigger squad than we have now!

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Quote: corvospace "Makes me laugh when Wigan fans slate other fans, everytime we go there we outsing them, they need an annoying drum to sing when they do, and 5 minutes to go v Huddersfield, 2 points down with a win to give them the shield and their fans were leaving the ground, 18th man my a rse'"



but if 90% of our fans walked out , we d still have more than you in the ground c020.gif icon_wink.gif

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Quote: shooter69 "but if 90% of our fans walked out , we d still have more than you in the ground Actually at your weekend game there were 13000, ours 4000, so in fact you are wrong. Your average home attendance this year is 15,612, ours is 4,230, which in fact 10% of yours is 1,562, correct me if I'm wrong?

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Quote: Red-4-life "Actually at your weekend game there were 13000, ours 4000, so in fact you are wrong. Your average home attendance this year is 15,612, ours is 4,230, which in fact 10% of yours is 1,562, correct me if I'm wrong?'"



1,562 that was Wigan's average crowd in the early 80's

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Quote: shooter69 "but if 90% of our fans walked out , we d still have more than you in the ground

typical pie eater, that was funny when your fans were leaving, we were getting beat 40-0 at jjb and we were still louder, hmm yes 18th man must be injured

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you could put parker back to 2nd Row, a position he played his best rugby in a salford shirt imo.

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Bailey is for me an identikit player to Nero and I can't get enthused about him either. If we have to have one of them make it that. Keep saying it but for me Neal (or is it Neil) is more of a 2nd rower than a prop for the time being and looks to have all the attributes to be a class act for many years to come.

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Quote: Michigan red "Bailey is for me an identikit player to Nero and I can't get enthused about him either. If we have to have one of them make it that. Keep saying it but for me Neal (or is it Neil) is more of a 2nd rower than a prop for the time being and looks to have all the attributes to be a class act for many years to come.'"


I agree - Given the other quota players we've been linked with, Bailey would be somewhat underwhelming for me.

Every time I've seen Neal play, I've thought he would be better suited in the 2nd row.

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Quote: Michigan red "Bailey is for me an identikit player to Nero and I can't get enthused about him either. If we have to have one of them make it that. Keep saying it but for me Neal (or is it Neil) is more of a 2nd rower than a prop for the time being and looks to have all the attributes to be a class act for many years to come.'"


I don't mean to appear disrespectful (or kick off an argument) but you really need to take a reality check. Unfortunately we are not currently a club that can have their pick of any player we choose. I would imagine it's a hard sell getting players to join us and I'd imagine we get several 'thanks but no thanks' replies when we approach players. Personally I'd be delighted with both players because in my view they are both good pro's and better than those leaving.

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Quote: theredshed "I don't mean to appear disrespectful (or kick off an argument) but you really need to take a reality check. Unfortunately we are not currently a club that can have their pick of any player we choose. I would imagine it's a hard sell getting players to join us and I'd imagine we get several 'thanks but no thanks' replies when we approach players. Personally I'd be delighted with both players because in my view they are both good pro's and better than those leaving.'"


I'll fooking tw@ you you icon_wink.gif

To be fair if Bailey were playing at say a Cas or Wakey we wouldn't be interested as I think the fact he is playing for Wigan gives him kudos he isn't really deserving off. I actually agree with you in that we need a reality check, the reality for me is that Bailey will command a high wage that I'm 100% certain we could utilise on someone who would bring more to the party.

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Quote: Michigan red "I'll fooking tw@ you you spiffing chap
But would these players be commanding the same high wages they currently get at Bradford and Wigan? I'd imagine they are at a stage in their careers when they have to take a cut. As for Bailey and the Wigan kudos comment . .didn't Bailey play for Australia and New South Wales before joining Wigan?

Someone mentioned being underwhelmed, you said you are not enthused, who do you honestly expect us to be able to sign right now? Would the prospect of playing for Wigan Athletic been of interest to Ronaldo?

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Quote: theredshed "But would these players be commanding the same high wages they currently get at Bradford and Wigan? I'd imagine they are at a stage in their careers when they have to take a cut. As for Bailey and the Wigan kudos comment . .didn't Bailey play for Australia and New South Wales before joining Wigan?'"


He played centre for Australia over Matt Gidley a few years back, hes a great proffesional and wouldnt turn upto a game with the cant be bothered attitude like alot of players do, form what I hear he helps the youngsters at Wigan so if he makes Luke Adamson into the class of Joel Tomkins hes worth every penny imo

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Quote: theredshed "But would these players be commanding the same high wages they currently get at Bradford and Wigan? I'd imagine they are at a stage in their careers when they have to take a cut. As for Bailey and the Wigan kudos comment . .didn't Bailey play for Australia and New South Wales before joining Wigan?

Someone mentioned being underwhelmed, you said you are not enthused, who do you honestly expect us to be able to sign right now?'"


My point is that Nero and Bailey for me are not players I would have had on any wish list (be it a fantasy one or a reality one). think you'll find Tallau came with great pedigree but look at the drain on the salary cap he has been for a couple of years. I'd be looking more at Pryce from Wigan and Yeaman or Turner (then at least the Judas thread would have a neat end to it).
The fact that Bailey helps out with the youngsters is obviously a good thing but we surely have someone in Mal Alker on the coaching staff that anyone even remotely involved with Salford will look up to and hold in the greatest reverence, also think that the Genius is doing a bang on job and not needing that much help.

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Quote: Michigan red "My point is that Nero and Bailey for me are not players I would have had on any wish list (be it a fantasy one or a reality one). think you'll find Tallau came with great pedigree but look at the drain on the salary cap he has been for a couple of years. I'd be looking more at Pryce from Wigan and Yeaman or Turner (then at least the Judas thread would have a neat end to it).
The fact that Bailey helps out with the youngsters is obviously a good thing but we surely have someone in Mal Alker on the coaching staff that anyone even remotely involved with Salford will look up to and hold in the greatest reverence, also think that the Genius is doing a bang on job and not needing that much help.'"


And added thought I've just had, with the opening round of SL games next season being held in Cardiff why not look at finding a good quality Welsh RU back to bring in, would be wonderful press to add to the current stellar stuff were currently getting. Would also take focus away from the Crusaders playing down there and maybe win us some good local support. Let's face it we have half decent record of Welsh RU backs coming to Salford why not look at continuing that?

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