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Listened on radio due to work committments.

Hull seemed to bomb a fair few chances. Were playing bad and have a coach who coaches cr@p attacking rugby!!!!

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I haven't heared anything from the game, just the result. Obviously i'm gutted we didn't win but tbh if you sait at the begining of the season we were fona louse 14-12 at the KC i woudl have thought it a fair result. I hope if was a good performance from Salford and just a better on from FC but i fear it may have not been icon_confused.gif

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I only heard the last 15 minutes and in that time we gave 3 pens away, dropped the ball 3 times, had a try disallowed for offside and kicked the ball dead on either the 2nd or 3rd tackle when attacking Hulls try line. Commentator stated that we hadn't had much field position. Pretty much the same as the game at the Willows by the sounds of it. 2 points dropped against a team low on confidence.

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Quote: Branny "I only heard the last 15 minutes and in that time we gave 3 pens away, dropped the ball 3 times, had a try disallowed for offside and kicked the ball dead on either the 2nd or 3rd tackle when attacking Hulls try line. Commentator stated that we hadn't had much field position. Pretty much the same as the game at the Willows by the sounds of it. 2 points dropped against a team low on confidence.'"


Did they say this was the correct decision?

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the officials 'got it wrong' because of what happened in the cup...

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Quote: BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff "Did they say this was the correct decision?

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the officials 'got it wrong' because of what happened in the cup...


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Quote: BringBackRugbyLeagueBiff "Did they say this was the correct decision?

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the officials 'got it wrong' because of what happened in the cup...


Reading the Hull board they seem to think it was a good try.

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Quote: Red-ode "I haven't heared anything from the game, just the result. Obviously i'm gutted we didn't win but tbh if you sait at the begining of the season we were fona louse 14-12 at the KC i woudl have thought it a fair result. I hope if was a good performance from Salford and just a better on from FC but i fear it may have not been
wasn't the best of games

Salford looked good when near the line, and the 2nd try was a very well worked quick passing move. Myler put in some good kicks also.

but you let yourselves down badly with so much laying on, you gifted us loads of penalties and to be honest we're lucky to not get someone sinbinned. All that time wasted/field position lost cost you the game.

to be honest it looked like two bottom 6 sides, we had more of the ball but struggled to score, whereas Salford took their chances better near the line but kept giving the ball away with cheap penalties.

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Got to agree with ULLFC, with better discipline you'd have won but constant cheap penalties gave us a 'get out of jail free' card and boy did we need it. Was totally puzzled as to some of the refs decisions especially the diallowed try our FB let bounce.

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Quote: bexandy-FC "Got to agree with ULLFC, with better discipline you'd have won but constant cheap penalties gave us a 'get out of jail free' card and boy did we need it. Was totally puzzled as to some of the refs decisions especially the diallowed try our FB let bounce.'"

To be fair, I couldnt see anything wrong with the try,but I was busy nipping my Rse when Tony missed the ball.

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As has been said, not a great game. Hull are obviously low on confidence and the lack of atmosphere showed their crowd were anxious.

Lots of possession for Hull but a fine defensive effort. When we had the ball we made some poor choices - killer passes were attempted, when possession would have been more valuable. One or two players didn't perform to their best levels (no names), but although it was frustrating (as it felt like Hull were there for the taking), can't be too disappointed. Our team now looks well drilled, fit and a bit of confidence will take us to that next level - McRae deserves some credit here.

No miracles but we have a team that can compete in Superleague. I am already looking forward to the Udders game - more than I can say for the early season matches. Come on Salford!

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Quote: UllFC "wasn't the best of games

Salford looked good when near the line, and the 2nd try was a very well worked quick passing move. Myler put in some good kicks also.

but you let yourselves down badly with so much laying on, you gifted us loads of penalties and to be honest we're lucky to not get someone sinbinned. All that time wasted/field position lost cost you the game.

to be honest it looked like two bottom 6 sides, we had more of the ball but struggled to score, whereas Salford took their chances better near the line but kept giving the ball away with cheap penalties.'"

I think that about sums it up for me, a fair review of the match. A poor game played by two poor sides reffed by a poor ref (in a quality stadium mind)

Just a note regarding lying on / holding down (and not being straight at the play the ball for that matter), something someone told me a long time ago, you only ever spot it when it's the opposition doing it and never your own side, funny that. Both team were guilty of it, and believe me I'm furious at the amount of times we did it, but one side was penalised more times for it.

One other reffing issue that drove me mad tonight and has done most of the season, the referee penalised us 3 times for not playing the ball correctly and FC once, now your not telling me that on only 4 occasions this evening the ball wasn't played correctly, either they penalise them all or none at all, it's just slowing the game down.

I thought we did some good things tonight with ball in hand and defended really well for long periods but we just lack some class and speed out wide on attack.

Saying that, and I know all teams go through it, without Adamson, Parker, Talau, White and Ratchford then having to move to centre, in a squad as small as ours we are always going to struggle <----not an excuse BTW. A few decent performances IMO tonight, Henry, Cashmere, Goulding to name a few.

As for FC, well I can't work you lot out, you've good players and good young players at that, but you look to lack a leader and at times were very pedestrian and a little clueless if you don't mind me saying. Is it coaching or the players?

If either team had met a good side tonight we'd have been hammered i'm sure you'll all agree.

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Quote: king of the shed "I think that about sums it up for me, a fair review of the match. A poor game played by two poor sides reffed by a poor ref (in a quality stadium mind)

Just a note regarding lying on / holding down (and not being straight at the play the ball for that matter), something someone told me a long time ago, you only ever spot it when it's the opposition doing it and never your own side, funny that. Both team were guilty of it, and believe me I'm furious at the amount of times we did it, but one side was penalised more times for it.

One other reffing issue that drove me mad tonight and has done most of the season, the referee penalised us 3 times for not playing the ball correctly and FC once, now your not telling me that on only 4 occasions this evening the ball wasn't played correctly, either they penalise them all or none at all, it's just slowing the game down.

I thought we did some good things tonight with ball in hand and defended really well for long periods but we just lack some class and speed out wide on attack.

Saying that, and I know all teams go through it, without Adamson, Parker, Talau, White and Ratchford then having to move to centre, in a squad as small as ours we are always going to struggle <----not an excuse BTW. A few decent performances IMO tonight, Henry, Cashmere, Goulding to name a few.

As for FC, well I can't work you lot out, you've good players and good young players at that, but you look to lack a leader and at times were very pedestrian and a little clueless if you don't mind me saying. Is it coaching or the players?

If either team had met a good side tonight we'd have been hammered i'm sure you'll all agree.'"


We lack a halfback, as Thorman is absolutely woeful. One of the worst players I've ever seen play for Hull. We have struggled to create anything since Cooke left. But luckily Long is coming next season.

we also lack leadership as Radford does little to rally the side on the field. We've not replaced players like Kearney and Swain who led the team previously. But we have to hope that Fitzgibbon adds experience and leadership next year.

we are very slow, clueless and aren't going to make the playoffs. Our squad isn't good enough to be challenging for the title, but a better coach would be getting more out of the side we have, Agar is out of his depth.

and yes both sides would have been hammered by a better side. At least you lot can claim its your first year back in SL, we have no excuses.

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Hull FC very fortunate tonight - 1 try v 2 tries from the Reds plus the disallowed Ratchford score. Up and Under from Smith - Tony let it bounce and Ratchford came from behind the other lads to score. Very poor decision in my view. Even so - constant driving again up the middle - absolutely crazy when we have talent on the fringes.

Swain had a stinker but Sidlow went well as did Goulding & Smith. Myler very quiet and HFC forwards constantly running at him tonight - very noticeable.

As for Beaumont - Pen Count 3-4 first half and 4-9 second half. He murdered us again. Have we had a favourable pen count all season?

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Quote: UllFC "We lack a halfback, as Thorman is absolutely woeful. One of the worst players I've ever seen play for Hull. We have struggled to create anything since Cooke left. But luckily Long is coming next season.

we also lack leadership as Radford does little to rally the side on the field. We've not replaced players like Kearney and Swain who led the team previously. But we have to hope that Fitzgibbon adds experience and leadership next year.

we are very slow, clueless and aren't going to make the playoffs. Our squad isn't good enough to be challenging for the title, but a better coach would be getting more out of the side we have, Agar is out of his depth.

and yes both sides would have been hammered by a better side. At least you lot can claim its your first year back in SL, we have no excuses.'"


Good summary.

Two poor teams last night, either would have been mullered by a half decent team.

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