Or we could try organsieing the Dutch underground movement into an en masse pogo stick athon to see if a mini tidal wave could be generated, that way things would get washed out to sea and there'd be no chance of salvage.

He,he! And this is 'HAPPY RED'? What's he like when his 'Farmers' flare up?

I dont mind Salford i just think there is more interest for the game in Widnes thats all.

Despite averaging over 7,000 last season the same could be said for us!

Well go and support then then
OK 4K was not as impressive as the HUGE crowds all the other muppets on here spout off about.
Salford have had 2 relegations lots of false dawns and teams in the past that have promised much but delivered little.
We are still here and will still carry on supporting,in the hope that one day we will be back up there.
Fook those who have a go at us

Its our first game for feck sake and it was Celtic. I'd rather we built a fan base over three years based on the fact that rugby league is an attractive and entertaining spectacle rather than getting a bunch of glory hunters turning up for the first few games becasue we are back in super league and then disappearing as soon as we lose a game like football 'fans'. The fixture list has done us no favours with us now having 2 away games followed by quins who aren't going to bring many up. I thought the crowd was pretty good last night all things considered. Yes I do think we need to do more marketing. There was nothing in my lads school which I would have expected for the first game but I think we were always going to be fighting a losing battle due to 1. The game being against Celtic who are not going to bring many up 2. it was on tv thus meaning even fewer celtic fans would travel and even some salford fans would opt to watch at home and 3. It was valentines day and even amongst the most hardened fans there will have been some who lost the battle with the Mrs (personally I dragged my hubby to the game instead of going for a meal but I must be in the minority of women). Lets not make judgments so early on. The whole point of having a 3 year franchise system is that it will take time to build both team and fanbase. Those who are interested in healthy debate on how we might improve our fanbase feel free to carry on. The hull s who choose to talk bollards please stick to your own forum where you all speak the same language.

Next topic please.......

A Hull KR fan criticisng attendances! Pfft!

I presume your avatar is a recent self portrait!

You have to keep the attendance figures in context IE Saturday night, 7.30pm kick off, St Valentines Day and finally switched to TV.

If you compare the attendance with the two matches at the Willows versus Celtic Crusaders last season,Saturdays crowd stands up well in that -

15/05/2008 Attendance 3438 14/02/2009 Attendance 4026 +17%

11/09/2008 Attendance 2607 14/02/2009 Attendance 4026 + 54%

Yes the crowds need to improve and against the majority of Superleague teams they will.

What is going on? The club are very active in promoting itself in a variety of ways and have appointed Adam Jude specifically to improve attendances, the community side is doing excellent work which eventually will pay dividends.

The press media coverage that we get is improving all the time and we receive as much publicity if not more than most clubs and again in the medium to long term the crowds should increase.

It's fact we have the biggest shirt sponsorship in Super League by a distance, thing is we are not sad enough to post on other clubs forums about how embarrassing it is that other clubs only get £xxx per season from their shirt sponsorship deal!

Get a life!

FWIW, I thought there were more than 4026 there on Saturday. I thought it was nearer the 5000 mark as The Shed was reasonably full and there was a decent sprinkling in the North Stand and in front of the VC. However, we're going to struggle to pull in decent crowds for the likes of Quins, Celtic & Les Cats and as long as we can build our fanbase over the next 3 years that'll do for me.

Before moving from Wilderspool Warrington struggled to maintain 4,000 average so we have lots of hope for the future.