I agree in part with what your saying like for instance mcdermott moving from wooden spoon to pots and pots of silver at Leeds, in reference to baloo and cunningham. I'm sure watson would do ok there, the common denomonater is they all have the most money or best players, on the other hand Cullen could do nothing right at Warrington and Smith turned them overnight into a success.

We need a name and Watson is not the answer.

Would love too see a bigger named Aussie coach in charge, no ties to any English players or any of the cliques that seem to surface with alarming regularity at Salford.

One who takes no prisoners and commands respect, if Sheens wasn't perfect for his current role I'd say him, can he do both? Don't know but I'd rather him do a great job on one side rather than juggle two.

I've read numerous reports saying Craig Bellamy from Melbourne is inked with Warrington, if there is even the remotest chance we could get him then heaven and earth must be moved by the club to facilitate it.

Bellamy and Sheens is the absolute dream team, could you think of a better set up for Watson and Gleeson to learn from?

Anyone know how the youngster played on Sunday Bibby and Lannon were of particular interest?

Salford had an experienced coach in Noble look what he signed.At Fax we went for Harrison experienced coach rubbish.Now with Marshall a coach new and untried i am delighted how we have gone this season.Stick with the set up you have with Sheens and Watson you have won against some quality teams.

I think it shows how difficult to get the balance right in any Club actually is. It's about getting all the cogs working together in the right way or it all goes out of the window. You can have twenty years in the game but it doesn't guarantee you are any good, and equally, fresh faces and ideas can work better, and everything in between.

I think Sheens brings the obvious amount of experience at the top level, and he seems to be a good man-manager. Or at least, knows what he needs instead of what he wants. He also brings a great deal of respect which is something our Club hasn't had in many many years. Watson and the ex-players cutting their teeth in coaching roles are probably a good addition to fill in the blanks that Sheens will have regarding players and the British game. Plus their hunger to get on and succeed make a decent mix. Both experience and fresh ideas can only be a positive thing for us going forward.

With the right players on board, bringing the right young lads through, and a Sheens pre-season should hopefully see a mini-transformation in and around the Club for what will be a difficult season next year for every Club.

Lannon did well in his spells and scored a good try ,
Jake Bibby i thought looked solid during the 1st half , but struggled a bit in the second when they got ontop of us.

give them a good pre-season no reason why they can't get more game time . but we need to look at how wigan and leeds introduce new academy players , gradually .

The biggest single issue over the past two years has been, IMHO, the influence of the owner.

With his reported antics the head of the United Nations Peacekeeping forces would have had difficulty building a settled, motivated and committed team.

Let's hope that as part of Tim Sheen's commitment to Salford that he really has laid down the parameters of what is and is not expected of the chairman/owner and that said owner can respect that. If that doesn't happen the we are doomed to fail again.

I agree, but surely Noble should have had the knowledge, backbone and standing in the game to tell the Doc the same as Sheens obviously has.

Cunningham has had a tough year for us though; the quality of our rugby has been pretty diabolical at times and some of his team selections and substitutes are utterly baffling coupled with a very poor recruitment policy (on the whole), and I do feel we have made the top 4 on the back of some of the other teams underperforming, so I agree. I think if he was at any other SL club other than Saints he may not have lasted the season. The fact he has a bronze statue up has given him some extra time if you ask me.

As an outsider, has Sheens been offered the coaching role full time? Or is it something he is basically doing whilst keeping the title of Director of Rugby?

Left field idea if Watson isn't going to get the job.

Watched the coverage of the Australian State championship yesterday won by the Ipswich Jets and one thing shone through was all the praise for the style of play and coaching set up.

It's slightly odd in that it's dual head coaches in Ben and Shane Walker, they have reverted to a more old style of play where the emphasis is on a solid one on one tackle with no wrestling and very free flowing attacking play. It was a brilliant game to watch and makes you fully aware of the huge gulf in class between England & Australia, I'd guess a good 50% of the players on show yesterday would walk into most SL teams and this is the equivalent of the Championship.

Just like we played in the seventies.

www.penrithpanthers.com.au/news/ ... ement.html Yes please, would be a massive appointment if the Doc could manage it, pretty sure that Sheens would give him a ringing endorsement also.

www.penrithpanthers.com.au/news/ ... ement.html Yes please, would be a massive appointment if the Doc could manage it, pretty sure that Sheens would give him a ringing endorsement also.

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No.

FFS Give Ian Watson a chance.
It's his first pre season and 1st full season in charge, lets see how he does