I'm surprised that insufferable idiot Dantes Infernal hasn't had anything to say on a thread like this, maybe the Butcher ignoring him has upset him.

LT, why is the glass always less than half full with you, i have never known anyone as negative as you are about the club you allegedly support. You never give or say anything positive,always whingeing, the Wigan game was very entertaining but did you come on here to give any credit, NO, its as though you wait for anything negative & then you are like a dog with a bone knawing away with your malice re steve simms, dave tarry & john wilkinson, if you hate what they do so much why do you support the club they run because if i disliked something so much, as you appear to, i couldnt give them support in any way on principle. I wish you would either shut up or stop going & give us some respite from your perpetual moaning

LT, why is the glass always less than half full with you, i have never known anyone as negative as you are about the club you allegedly support. You never give or say anything positive,always whingeing, the Wigan game was very entertaining but did you come on here to give any credit, NO, its as though you wait for anything negative & then you are like a dog with a bone knawing away with your malice re steve simms, dave tarry & john wilkinson, if you hate what they do so much why do you support the club they run because if i disliked something so much, as you appear to, i couldnt give them support in any way on principle. I wish you would either shut up or stop going & give us some respite from your perpetual moaning

Everyone is allowed an opinion but we have to reaily move on from Simms and Tarry must go effort, lets see how we go this season and revisit it and the end

When have the bookies not had us ' in the bottom 4 in a super league season ' ?

they did the season we came up in 1997 and we finished 6th
they did in 2006 and we we finished 5th ,
they tipped us for top 6 in 2007 and we finished last and were relegated..
by that idiom i'd be more concerned if they'd predicted we are were going to do well ....like last season ,
remember this is Rugby League not WWE , maybe you be better of watching WWE , or just Wii....
it's not as if everyone gets round pre-match and decides who's going to win ..do they

Fantastic , after 110 years at the willows , we are kicking off a new season in a brand new stadium , in Super League , lets not bother shall we.... whats the point

•Blackpool Gladiators
•Blackpool Panthers
•Bramley
•Bridgend
•Carlisle Border Raiders
•Crusaders RL*
•Chorley Borough
•Gateshead Thunder*
•Mansfield Marksmen
•Nottingham City
•Oldham Bears*
•Paris St Germain
•Prescot Panthers
•Runcorn Highfield
•Scarborough Pirates
•South Wales
•Sheffield Eagles*
•Southend Invicta

Fans who used to support this lot might see a point
( * reformed )

to be fair to L.T, i enjoy the bookies and me myself had 2 bets, the bottom for will be us, harlequins, bradford and wakefield, if you wanna do a cheeky one pick the bottom 5 and sneek widnes in as well.
the reason i had 2 is i could decide who will finish bottom between us and harlequins.
i think harlequins but it was better to be safe than sorry !!
If you really beleive we will finish any higher then u must be mad !!!!

I can ask hypothetical questions too.....

"If I unsrew my belly button would my bum fall off?"

"If my Auntie had balls, would she be my Uncle?"

Pointless negative question. Go and sit in the corner.

I personally think that a season battle for 8th and 9th spot is probable and that Bradford will finish in the bottom 4 and possibly one of the very big teams will struggle and not make the 8 for a change.

In proper lancetodd stylee, these hypothetical questions should be

"If I unscrew my belly button would Steve Simms be sacked?"

"If my Auntie had balls, would Steve Simms be sacked?"

Really? We've not finished in the Wooden Spoon position since we were relegated in 2007. In fact, since coming back in, we've improved by one position each season. So what you're suggesting is hardly usual, is it?

By the way, before you start, I'm not blinkered and I'm not in the "all is rosy" camp. But d*ckheads like you really don't help the debate with your over-the-top nonsense.

Good list M-man but you missed one club:
Bradford Northern
rip 10/12/63

Oh, its not a bail-out but a sensible piece of investment (according to several on Virtual Terrace)!

I think you should reread your post, because that is exactly what you are stating, you have not said if we finish in the bottom 4 but because the bookies say we will finish in the bottom 4 the coach should be sacked. If you can not understand your own question, the simple answer is don't ask it.