In regards to your statement above can you please tell me how many times we've done that and who they were because I can't for the life of me think of any?

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I also lost count at none..?

Terry O'connor for one. Paul Groves left us and immediately got in the GB team. Admittedley it didn't work out at saints for him!

The more telling statement I made was the number of big money hasbeens we've had.

Andy Gregory, Martin Offiah, Bobby Goulding, Garry Jack (2nd time rnd), George Nicholls, Peter Glynn, Kieron O'loughlin, Willie Talau.

I'm sure you can think of a few more.

i cant think of any promising young talents who've left us for bigger and better things?

McAvoy to Bradford maybe?
Stephen Myler has maybe gone on to better things but he wouldnt have made it in RL anyway...

Terry O'Connor and Paul Groves......there the ones, neither of them were world class players, though I always liked TC even when he was at Wigan.

As for the older ones who came like Gregory and co, I sort of agree with the point your making but most of them even at there old age were still better than players we had.

You’re right here. In the last 30 years, whenever Salford have had a genuine young talent on their books, or a kid with the hype machine behind them, they have sold them on. The two you’ve mentioned are the main examples; Ged Byrne to a slightly lesser extent, Nathan McAvoy to a much lesser extent, who we’d already seen the best from. However, there’s no evidence to suggest whether doing so was detrimental to the team; I suppose that’s subjective and hindsight helps, or perhaps doesn’t help at all, in that analysis.

You’re probably being a little harsh on Groves. A lot of Saints supporters were fond of him and a combination of Murphy tossing about with team during a lulled period and players such as Bernard Dwyer coming through curtalied his impact. He still managed to play over well over 100 games for them.



I’m sure many would agree with you here, but some of the players you mentioned, although past their best, were a joy to watch at The Willows. A battered Andy Gregory is the still the best scrum-half I’ve seen play for Salford; Bobby Goulding had a good period and the Martin Offiah of 2001 would walk into today’s side. We’ll never know whether the policy of signing such players led to our relegation in 2002.

It also has to be said, Salford have spent big during certain times under Wilkinson’s tenure. Adrian Hadley, Garry Jack and Richard Webster to name a few big buys.

Anyways going back to the original question

If we dont make a go of it in the next two seasons were fooked anyway! Why not spend a bit extra and we'll hopefully win more games and make an impression on the rfl. If were challenging for the play offs then surely we should get another franchise? If we go down, kiss goodbye to JW and to our club.

i've just read that the cap is staying the same for next season off the superleague website. Also it says that players who have played for 10 years or more at the same club, half their salary doesn't count on the cap. So that effects alker and littler?

Cant see Littler being with us next year.

and, seeing as you repeatedly seem to ignore everyone pointing out that there aren't any magic pots of money, where exactly is this extra coming from?

Ged Byrne to Wigan in 87 (ish)