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I am with Bonita Red, I cant see him doing this on purpose. Contact looks inevitable, I don't think he could pull out but its the dipping of the shoulder I cant get over. Does he stumble? Doesn't look like it from what I can see.

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Hock could have avoided the ref or at least avoided the severity of the contact endured by Thomason. Granted he is running at full pelt, but he clearly dips his shoulder into the ref and then carries on driving forward, sitting the ref down in the front row of the North stand. Needless, pointless act, which he could have avoided.

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I've watched the video a few times and still can't work out whether it was intentional or not. If it was any other player I'd say it was an accident but you never know with Hock.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "I am with Bonita Red, I cant see him doing this on purpose. Contact looks inevitable, I don't think he could pull out but its the dipping of the shoulder I cant get over. Does he stumble? Doesn't look like it from what I can see.'"


Come on pal he could have stopped or avoided him, the official must be 8 meters away and he stumbles about five steps before the collision. The only question for my is why has he done it - not is it on purpose

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Deffo looks deliberate, just wonder if he was trying to wrap his arms round the ref to stop him falling backwards. The clip cuts off straight after the incident so does any one know if Hock helped the ref to his feet or if he apologised. Either of these actions would go some way towards proving it wasn't deliberate.

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Quote: REDRUM "Come on pal he could have stopped or avoided him, the official must be 8 meters away and he stumbles about five steps before the collision. The only question for my is why has he done it - not is it on purpose'"


I'm not having a 16 stone (guess) Gareth Hock running at that speed could have stopped or avoided contact. The issue is with the blatant dip of the shoulder.

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It looked innocent on the day but the clip looks damning.

I'm inclined to believe he slipped and lost balance after trying to grab for the ball or something in all honesty. Reasons being, Hock has been remarkably well behaved this year with the exception of the London game at the beginning of the season....and more importantly, what reason did he have to go for the ref? There was nothing I can think of that would have even put the thought into his head, we were in front & there were no controversial calls against us unless I missed something?

I think its just a bad camera angle of an unfortunate but innocent incident.

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The charge shouldn't even be up for debate. There's some utter lunacy on here.

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Well, having finally seen the video, I'm not sure this is as clear cut as some fans of other clubs would like it to be. Having lost the ball, he steps to the right to avoid the Hull player, and finds himself a couple of yards from the referee who is running towards the line he is now running, and who keeps running right up to the point of impact. The referee, who is lighter and has less momentum than Gareth Hock, didn't seem to be able to pull out of the collision either.

Unfortunately, his past behaviour may well count against him here, since he has a bit of previous on the "see...ref...crash...ref" front, but had it been a different player, I'm not convinced people would be so quick to judge.

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He's already been convicted and thrown out of RL with regards to Social media. What bothers me here, is that the 'incident' is far from clear cut regardless of opinions. You can't look at it and say for certain, 100% that he's deliberately done something to the ref. It's interesting that on the day nothing was done about it, no 'on report' no decisions. Both sets of fans and clearly the Officials thought nothing of it. The only real reason it's being debated is due to it being Hock. If Hansen, or Ellis or anyone else had done it I guarantee we wouldn't be talking about it now.

Which isn't fair.

A player is being vilified due to his past which is wrong. Regardless of previous, as a Salford fan one of the big plus points with Hock this season is how controlled and uncontroversial he's been. As for dipping his shoulder, he actually dips both forward as he's trying to stay on his feet after moving to the left of the official. Regardless of this, Hock is in the process of trying to retrieve a kicked ball to score. He even gets his hand to it. He then has half a second or so to decide he's going to blast into an official? It's ridiculous. His focus was getting the ball. The half second after that is momentum and physics.

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After the Docs remedial action following Nobbygate the whole club is being noticed more (except in Salford it seems) & as we go along more knives will be coming out from RFL, fans and Chairmen alike.

Just think we have to tough it out - Just part of the success to come hopefully.

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Not all of you but some are just being silly the evidence was there for all to see yet you are still trying to defend the idiot . Just a couple of points .

1. Neither Tansey or Bailey were sent off either

2. All of you who say how well Hock has behaved this season , well so did a certain Liverpool Footballer for 6 months and then look what happened .

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Quote: ploinerrhino "Not all of you but some are just being silly the evidence was there for all to see yet you are still trying to defend the idiot . Just a couple of points .

1. Neither Tansey or Bailey were sent off either

2. All of you who say how well Hock has behaved this season , well so did a certain Liverpool Footballer for 6 months and then look what happened .'"


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Quote: ploinerrhino "Not all of you but some are just being silly the evidence was there for all to see yet you are still trying to defend the idiot .'"


Point for future reference...

If you want to be taken seriously with the points you made, I'd suggest trying to be neutral in your post. Before you've even made any valid points you've already revealed your personal feelings on the matter, therefore making the rest of your post void.

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