I could give maybe 20 - no maybe 30 benefits to the club - the opportunities are boundless. However with you lads there is just no point. If I said the sky was blue you would argue that its brown.

We are now in `business` with Sale - fact - between our clubs we now have an opportunity to market year round top flight Rugby - no other club has that luxury (bar Quins).

Whats done is done - they are here - so are we - we now have to be very positive about how we benefit. It could be the makings of the club if we use our resources well.

Hello EB,this dinosaur is here,wrong again,So we are now in business with them now,thats news to me,we would say the sky was brown because it is,i feel sorry for you,i bet the stockport county fans have fallen in love with the sharks to and are heart broke they have left them, IMO,they don`t belong in this stadium,they have not put a penny into its construction,its been part paid for by the people of Salford,Salford City FC,Swinton and any other sporting club from Salford should be there not some out of town entity who have no affinity with our city. Schools from around the City should be made welcome to use it,our local amateur RL and Football finals should played there to,that just might make the people of Salford aware that we play there to.

I do like you EB you do talk a lot of sence

Us fans don't really know what goes on behind closed doors we can only see what we are allowed to see out of these 30 benefits how many are reliant on sale playing ball and basically sharing their resources? From the outside sale look ruthless in every department and us fans including myself are worried they will take take take to benefit themselves.

Saying that I'm struggling to see what we offer to sale in this beautiful relationship unless its more about how we make every pound work and its THEM who need to scale down their spending on promotion and playing staff and they are looking to how we finance our club

What do you suggest Mitie Mouse? What is your grand plan?

It is so easy to keep criticising everything associated with Sale, which is fine but I would love to see some of you showing a little support or offering a real alternative.
I would be happy to see an alternative master plan instead of the negativity being shown.
It appears I was one of the few to make the journey yesterday, remember the club will only grow with your support & if that's not going to happen then it will need to look elsewhere to survive.

Agree redgunner & thanks for the comment the optimist.

The problem with the dinosaurs is that their Agenda is ............... sorry there isnt one. Unless mitie & his pals start looking to the future instead of the past we have just zero hope.

Playing RL at Barton equates to say 20 matches a season or 36 hours per annum. What a waste of a facility like ours. Assets have to work to provide revenue and our 20 matches just wont suffice so its quite understandable why Sale have come and maybe others too.

Barton is a RUGBY Arena and the first thing the club(s) should do is to market the year round opportunity to the whole Manchester conurbation - not just the Salford City regulars. If we don't then we will fail.

There's been a NEGATIVE halo surrounding this club ever since the day JW first walked in the door at SCR. I've tried being positive for 30 years Redgunner and look where it's got us.... A big fat nowhere, a laughing stock. If our board acted positive in their ways and dealing's instead of fiasco after fiasco, then the positivity would filter down to the pitch and then to us the fans. When are you people ever going to except that with JW at the helm we'll continue to dwindle in the bowels of superleague dying a slow death, but EB and his cronies WANT sale rugby union's HELP to mentor our inept board because they're incapable of doing it themselves. Again fella's we're still awaiting the 30 POSITIVE points to extinct US dinosaur's.

Your wasting your time asking some people on here to be subjective, the fact is that regardless of how many times people give positives they are ignored. Like you I agree that there are many to be taken and granted there are a few negatives but I think that the positives far outweigh the negatives.
The club though I agree with the doom mongers is not helping itself, there has been precious little comunication from the club on the ground share and only today I went to the gym to find that Sale have been in with shiny flyers for season tickets that don't require a degree in rocket science to fathom spread all over the place.

After making such an idiotic statement I will refuse to acknowledge any of your previous points as they have lost all credibility for making such false claims. There was numerous people who were not Salfordians, lots of dignitaries on a free load also I seen 4 shirts from other clubs, Leigh, Warrington, Leeds and Wigan. If Salford are to improve in the near future I've said it before and I will say it again, Mr Salford has to go and take it daughter with him, Tarry must leave as a priority, Steven Simms needs to given a golden hand shake and pack up his desk. Until those this happen Salford will always be an amateur club struggling in a professional organisation. One final thought, when was the last time you was proud to say you was a Salford fan? What has the club / players done in last life time to actually make you stand up and be proud? Beat Wigan in Challenge Cup? Says a great lot doesn't it?

That is all.

A lot of people on here seem to be going round in circles arguing about something that didn't happenslightly[/i more lucrative.

This isn't about whether or not you like John Wilkinson, Rugby Union or the Moonies for that matter. And it's not about whether Sale playing at the same ground as us
is going to present '30 benefits' or none at all; Sale's agreement is with the stadium management company, not with us.

This is simply about accepting reality and finding the best way to deal with the situation so that Salford City Reds can prosper.

Humble apologies for my idiocy, there were of course 10,149 at the Catalans game. I also failed to recognise that the majority of those in attendance weren't from Salford at all, and were actually "dignitaries on a freeload" and fans from other clubs (including the four you spotted). it's a good job Catalans didn't bring any away fans that day or there's a chance that there'd have been NOBODY from Salford there at all.

Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways.

Quote: programmethrower " 1) Mr Salford has to go and take it daughter with him, 2) Tarry must leave as a priority, 3) Steven Simms needs to given a golden hand shake and pack up his desk. .'" These are PTs demands then. OK lets examine :- 1) JAW would love to go so PT who is your man to find the £5+ million to see him off? 2) So huge Redundancy payment required here plus no doubt such as Gary Cook - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Cook_(CEO) (hes available) to come in at 10 x the salary. 3) Another lump sum required from PTs benefactor and also someone as well versed as SS in the Australian market. I pass the ball to you PT. Who is this man you have lined up? Tell us all.

Quote: programmethrower " 1) Mr Salford has to go and take it daughter with him, 2) Tarry must leave as a priority, 3) Steven Simms needs to given a golden hand shake and pack up his desk. .'" These are PTs demands then. OK lets examine :- 1) JAW would love to go so PT who is your man to find the £5+ million to see him off? 2) So huge Redundancy payment required here plus no doubt such as Gary Cook - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Cook_(CEO) (hes available) to come in at 10 x the salary. 3) Another lump sum required from PTs benefactor and also someone as well versed as SS in the Australian market. I pass the ball to you PT. Who is this man you have lined up? Tell us all.

Actually I am quite proud to say to anybody that I am a Salford fan and always will be.

Great post PT.

I agree his daughter must go too.

After reading the last few posts from the usual suspects, it seems we should be thanking Sale moving in for saving Salford from oblivion, despite the only two parties to benefit from the arrangment being Sale and the Stadium Management company. Early Bath claims there are 20 to 30 benefits to Salford from this arrangment, yet so far has only listed 'joint marketing' (despite Sales marketing dept etc not being based at Barton) and the laughable comment about attracting 1500 Sale fans to Salford on a regular basis. If you don't want to post the positives on here (not sure why) feel free to send them to me via pm, as I am intrigued as to what they could be.