and who says they will not...
However, whereas Featherstone has done well and the club certainly deserves a chance in SL, you fail to take into account the costs of being in SL and the effects it has had on the other two clubs in that borough.

Lastly, Leigh IMO were ruined by their "season in the sun"

I accept what you say but by the same token teams who have fallen foul in terms of financial distress whilst in SL have remained making a complete farce of the franchise system.
Bradford spring to mind along with Wakefield and Salford who let's not forget till Koucash came along borrowed to the hilt to retain SL status.
Who's to say Featherstone or Leigh for that matter wouldn't have been better candidates.

I know lots of Salford fans who have an obsession with our club, it is good to see fans of other clubs are becoming equally obsessive....lol

He's a Swinton fan you dizzy get. And stop quoting him, some of us are trying to avoid the two-faced numpty. (Jesus, I sounded like MR there, get help!

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As for this thread, how embarrassing and utterly pathetic. The reaction from some opposition fans to the whole takeover, including mates who have show sympathetic tendencies towards Salford in the past, has been utterly laughable.

How are they not being rewarded? Aren't they being recognised as champions? If promotion is the only reward you recognise, then there's no reward for finishing top of SL, nor for winning the Grand Final. A bit ridiculous wouldn't you agree?

And while having a squad of players capable of finishing top of a part-time competition is a [inecessary[/i condition for elevation of [ithe club as a whole[/i to a full-time competition, by no means is it [isufficient[/i, as evidence from the pre-franchise past shows.

As for lack of vision or ignorance, I notice that, once again Marshy, you're all P and no R. What about the relegated club?

Did you ask to join my gang



Can't someone just kick him off? we pay our taxes and should therefore be allowed one blatant act of hatred to due our collective suffering from porcinaphobia.

I don't so much find if laughable but pitiful that these numpties can't go on their own forums and start discussions, think in some cases it's because it's difficult to have a conversation with someone else when your the only contributing fan.

Some clubs - including Salford - have struggled financially during the franchise period, but they remained in SL because they had a three year licence that allowed them to do so. The point I keep stressing - and which you seem to have trouble understanding - is that it's a [ithree year licence[/i. There is no reason to relegate a club if, during that period, that club has financial difficulties, as long as the club survives. It may give up its licence, or it may be asked to give it up if the difficulties persist, but as long as it comes out of those difficulties, there's no reason to relegate. However, those struggles inform the next licence review. I see no "farce" here. It seems to be working how it's meant to.

Now the irony is that, as we stand and with the next licence review less than twelve months away (had we stuck with franchising) there are two SL clubs in a pretty parlous state (London and Wakefield) and at least one candidate - probably more - with a good chance of replacing them. The elevated club(s) would be given three years to gain a foothold in SL, and would know well in advance that they were heading there, thus giving them sufficient time to adapt to the requirements of a full-time competition. Instead, we're spiralling out of control into a situation where a club will come out of the part-time competition with little time to prepare, spend a year in the full-time competition taking half to two thirds of that season getting up to speed - by which time it's too late - before dropping back down again. There's no incredible relegation battles in this scenario Marshy (one of the things P&R fans seem to think will happen). It's all over by the back end of July.

And then, of course, there's the relegated club: the club that doesn't appear to exist in the eyes of P&R fans. What happens to them?

Sorry just picked up on the unbelievable hypocrtical comment ..
Huddersfield
SL 1998 Huddersfield 12th - Wooden Spoon .... not relegated
SL 1999 Huddersfield 14th - Wooden Spoon . ....not Relegated
SL 2000 Huddersfield 12th -Wooden Spoon ...... Not Relegated
SL 2001 Huddersfield 12th - Wooden Spoon ....... not Relegated.

If only they practiced what they preached.

Can I have permission to talk about the concepts of P&R vs franchising with him? Not much happens on the Swinton forum and I think he's lonely.

obviously a glory-hunter who isn't aware they played at FARTown

Feel free Red John.

A Swinton fan taking the pi$$? That would be like a blind man poking fun at me because I wear glasses.

The trolling from fans of rival clubs simply reflects the fear they have. I would rather the club be feared than liked or patronised for being $hit. I welcome the trolling. In fact, it gives me a warm feeling inside.