You must be very sensitive if you consider that a slagging-off. More tongue-in-cheek as you seem to be the only Salford fan who didn't rate Hancock. Think you need to chill out a little.

I agree that Fata Sini was also an excellent centre for us. Both equally stood-out in the teams they played in.

Sini doesn't join our now prestigous 30's club unfortunately although he is rightly a legend!, he was 29 when he joined Salford from Samoa RU ( I had to check as I had him older ) .

Thanks middleman

I'd say out of that list Frank Wilson stands out from the others with Talau in 2nd. If we were to sign player over 30 I'd prefer a halfback or a forward than a threequarter.

You'd rate Talau second out of that list?

In a Salford shirt yes

Can't believe Hoss Cartwright hasn't been mentioned, he was for me one the best second rowers I've ever seen in a Salford shirt and if it hadn't have been for injury I think he'd have become a true legend for his offload alone.

Cartwright was awesome he was a forward though not a threequarter.

I saw someone mention Forber and thought it only right to include Hoss. And Andy Greg when he came back was still on his day in a different class to many in their 20's.

Moon want's to play for Leeds,Gleeson want's to play for anybody.good luck to the two of them.

It wasn't your original post you dismissed him as a non entity, however I accept you later stated he was class at Brisbane, but in any case you lost all credibility with your Talau at number 2 I'm taking it you meant that tongue in cheek that Talau was number 2.

IIRC he spent most of his time on the treatment table.

Just out of interest what number did you have Peter Williams at ?

How can Talau be 2nd?? He only played about twice!!

I grew up watching Peter Williams, he signed 29 years of age, he had a terrific rugby brain, he could slot in fullback, stand-off and centre and not look out of place but the one thing Peter lacked was pace to be considered a true great. Give him that extra yard of pace i think we would of witnessed him in a Wigan shirt not Salford with the Great Britain No4 jersey made his own.

As a Salford supporter over the decades i have witnessed some pretty bad signings in the centre position in defensive terms. Bentley, Birkett, Carige, Langi, Tassell, Henry, Littler, Sean Gleeson, the list could go on. So when Talau arrived and played in a very bad McRae side, it was a breath of fresh air, i recognised that Talau solidified the left centre immensley and when he didn't play we missed his defence, we leaked in try after try thats why Talau was influencial when he played. If we had a decent enough defensive centre replacing him we probably wouldn't of missed him.

I don't know PV's plans or wishes ( he probably doesn't under current standings ) but Gleeson is a short term fix without any guarentee of any return from Gleeson. I'm sure there's a player in the Lower leagues who has potential and can be moulded into a Superleague player who is more enthused, cheaper, dedicated and hungrier than Martin Gleeson. Zak Hardaker is the prime example.

Trouble is, Zak Hardaker is the exception as opposed to the rule. There is undoubted talent in the lower leagues but the likes of Leeds are way ahead of us in forging links and attracting players. I suppose the Club has done something similar with Fages. Searched out and invested in a young lower league player with a lot of talent. It's about the only thing the Club has done for the long term i can actually remember.

I liked Talau but he was way passed his best for Salford and didn't play enough to warrant any adoration from myself. Each to their own I suppose.