Can you with hand on your heart say that there is no better players in their positions playing rugby league outside of super league,Patten and Holdsworth in my opinion,are just steady run of the mill guys,nothing to get excited about,do not frighten the opposition when they get the ball,well just ordinary,but expensive.I like Smith,no problem with that lad.Now,who signed these guys Lance?

Feka 10/10 and a fantastic transformation. Well done that man. He now needs to have a word with Sidlow and Jewitt.

Long hard season on the way, Salford worked hard but without the platform of some quality forwards it will be a difficult long hard season.

I know the conditions were bad but how many points did Cas score off the back of Holdsworth mistakes?

How many times has Holdsworth missed touch with a penalty???
That was when we lost the game.
So controlled in the first half, following a game plan and not to take advantage of a penalty in a sin.

It's a game we could have won, no lack of effort, and the odd stand out performance, but when will we learn that we have to do the basics right to stand any chance of winning?

which two players were allowed to go home for Christmas, and it shows, Holdsworth is not even going through the motions, his first attempt at goal said everything I needed to know his whole body language was totally wrong. Perhaps the captaincy wasn't the problem maybe it was the contract we gave him, I am sure he wouldn't drop that.
So back to the drawing board, only good point was our 2nd try.

I didnt expect much but even so i am disappointed.

Having watched both games this weekend, and knowing how our backs can play in better conditions, I would say we have more to offer than Widnes, but when you take into account our self-destruct button it doesnt look good.

To be fair, I think he was trying to use the wind to curl it in from the right, pretty much what Dixon did to perfection when they scored down the same side in the 2nd half, just didn't work at all.

Was pretty annoying to see him pretty much throw the ball forward into the hands of a Cas player twice during the game.

Tonight was always going to be a forwards game with the conditions so maybe we shouldn't write them off after one game and give them a bit more time under the new regime. If Godwin is out for an extended period of time then things could be changed up though with Smith moving over to hooker...?

Exactly Pev,you know as well as i that pre season is critical to do your stamina work,and the set plays,formations etc.To be honest i thought our attack out wide was pretty good with a bit more working on,on dryer and warmer days im sure we will score some more top tries,its that bleeding pack of ours that worries me.Feka was top man tonight for me.

You did some good work out there tonight and the conditions were poor, keep the faith and a nice new stadium to boot, God luck for the season (apart when you visit cas of course)

Holdsworth has to be dropped after that display, simple as. If PV is doing his job and being fair then Sneyd must start against Saints. We have the fastest player in SL in Broughton and all the play goes down the right.

Big well done to Feka, I only wish others had improved as much compared to last year.

With out putting undue praise on the 2 half back, they can't do nothing with a defeated Pack surely? My issue with these go why is it when it comes to the 4th or 5th tackle either: or, seems to be out of place (I'm sure there is some grammar points for you geeks to pick up on there) For so many years out last tackle kicking options has been a shambles, despite numerous coaches, how can this be?

What Kicking game?

Holdsworth is totally disinterested and really does not want to be here, that is so obvious from the way he has been playing for the past two years.
I feel sorry for Smith, he has shown what he can do behind a dominant pack (Saints in the play offs) and now he is behind that shower of $hite.
20 metres max on any set of six tells its own sorry story.

spot on.