Or Barker possibly.

Sorry.

Or

Barker

Possibly

I can't wait for the moment it does.

Is this another one for my list?

All the answers will arrive...eventually. Like our hordes of stay away support?

To be fair, putting a winning team out on the pitch isn't a quick fix, which is one of the reasons many of us call for patience whenever this argument crops up. It's not that long ago we were getting 4, 5, 6 thousand crowds fairly regularly - there was a downturn towards the end of life at the Willows (I'm going off memory there, rather than hard fact...) so it's not beyond the realms of fantasy that a successful side and fulfilled promises would bring at least some of those people back.

PS - just seen the reply above as well, very good.

i honestly believe that if the AJ Bell was built in the same location as the willows we would be hitting much higher crowds. For me we have moved a business away from its core customers and with that people have/will drop off. Want evidence? Look at Swinton when they moved to gig lane, look at sale when they moved, Coventry City dropped massively when they moved. History seems to be littered with clubs where this has happened, partly because people feel the their "local" club has gone and partly because you lose so much passing and local trade. Lets face it people cant be ar$ed commuting ten miles to a club that used to be on their doorstep.

I’m not convinced, and I’m from Weaste. I just think for some it’s too far out of ‘proper’ Salford. Sounds daft but that sentiment does exist east of Eccles.

I am probably speaking out of turn but that sort off comments puts me right off!

I was never at the Willows but from reading here for a few years, people seem to have a tinted memory of what appeared to be a ramshackle, with roofs caving in and toilets that where a wall to pee against. Going by what I read, similiar to the make a mend jungle ( where by their own admission, visiting teams refuse to use the away changing rooms).

There appears to be a group memory of workers clocking off at 5, walking to the pub, having a few, walking to the stadium watching some rugby, back to the pub for a few more and home. I am in my 40's but I can never rememember that working utopia ( but nor can I remember 13 year olds down the pits). Similar to comments about building a new stadium, seemingly ignoring the fact that the land in a central location would cost £20m with a similar amount to build a stadium.

My point being, the old idea of following a club rooted in the community no longer exists. A SL club is a business, it relies on coporate, it relies on those shelling out for the padded seats, it relies on people buying merchsndise; it no longer relies on those living next door. While it may wants numbers, the ones who think £18 is expensive and refuse to buy a pint are not what make a club money. Like it or not , those who shell out £40 a ticket and are happy to pay over the odds for a beer or 3 are the people who make a club viable.

All of which leads me back to original post. I am a season ticket holder with Sale, being from NI I only knew RU until recently, I have went to a few Salford games ( and been able\lucky to afford for the posh seats) and enjoyed RL more than most RU games, while people like the poster above or Martin Vickers decide to label this Irish Council House boy as posh, I'll spend my money somewhere I feel welcome.

I am quite new to this forum, but have read it for years and my honest thoughts are fans of RL often do more harm to a great sport than they know. I am prob the type of person RL needs to attract, am certainly in the ABC1 advertising category, think RL is a better spectacle but for a more enjoyable match experience I renewed my more expensive Sale Season ticket. I will buy a few Salford tickets when am free, will follow them and hope they go well, but the match day experience is more down to the fans than the club. When the 2000 core fans get that right, then people like me will attend more.
Sorry , bit of a rant, but been thinking about it a lot deciding what ticket to buy.

"think RL is a better spectacle but for a more enjoyable match experience I renewed my more expensive Sale Season ticket"

As we both share the same stadium and therefore must have similar structures and pre/post match places in which to relax, can you explain why the Sale experience is better. We may learn from this.

Interesting post but I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the 2000 core fans getting it right? Are you suggesting the fans aren't helping to sell/promote the club and contribute to a negative atmosphere around the place, or do you mean something else?