Exactly next few games will give us a good indication of where were at. Im not righting off these players with the exception of hock but theyve got earn there crust!

Agreed. Even after numerous replays he was still only sin binned. Yet now he has got a ban it is suddenly an act of thuggery.

Onto Hock himself, wasn't too bothered about him being kept on in the first place. One less balloon in the side for a few games now he has got a ban.

I do. For me he needs help and advice starting from now for when he leaves the game. If he can turn things around and curb the stupidity he could carry on for quite a few more years as he has been comparatively lightly used due to missed games. If he does leave the game he will struggle financially with all the problems that go with it. But for all his foolishness I don't think I can remember him being criticised by players. Team mates or opposition.

Houghton kirmond and huby would all demand massively inflated wages to come to Salford and probably any other players of equal or greater quality. Unfortunately I think the doc has created this culture by trying to create success overnight. It may take going backwards first as a solution and fans and the doc having a bit more patience and looking more for the future rather than now.

Not sure what it's got to do with immigration to be honest.
My view is this:
Could Salford dismiss Hock for his on-field conduct? Depends on the T&Cs of his contract, it's a possibility though. They could claim his behaviour makes him incapable of doing to job he is paid to do. However, it has no precedent that I know of.
Hock could argue that there is a reasonable risk of suspension in RL and this conduct doesn't warrant a dismissal as it would in another workplace.
It's more likely that IF Salford want rid, they can come to a financial agreement that is acceptable to both parties. I think this would be counted on the salary cap though, unless of course a loophole can be found.

Beyond comprehension I like it. It conveys a real sense of being the most outraged person in this whole scenario. I'm not defending him at all. The blokes an idiot and a coward. I'm merely ranking his misdemeanours in order with the other filthy acts of the weekend.i mentioned the attack on Pelisier. But the chicken wing on crabtree was the nastiest incident of the round. A one match ban if I'm correct.....

I challenge you to watch the two incidents of kneeling by hock and the deliberate and let's be honest some real hard work the Wigan player put in to bending crabtrees arm back, and see which one turns your stomach more.

Like I said I'm not defending hock I'm just trying to manage people's hysteria. .

And you're dead right.
He's daft.
He was correctly found guilty.
The ban is disproportionate and I agree with the chicken wing analogy

Chicken wings, ankle locks, cannonball tackles etc are the real thuggish acts imo, and the bans (or lack of) that are given out are ridiculous. In a full blooded game when you are phsyced up its easy for things to boil over and for punches to be thrown, or for attempted big hits to turn into wreckless high tackles. We don't want this stuff in our game, but we can accept that it can and will happen from time to time. But when a guy commits a chicken wing tackle for example, they know exactly what they are doing and the know the consequences. To deliberately try to hurt a fellow players by twisting his ankle or shoulder is about as low as you can go on a rugby field.

It's noticeable that your protestations about Williams and Carney and whoever else you want to drag into the debate are only done so on here and not on the appropriate boards' of the clubs concerned. When replying to your last post I agreed with what you said regarding them, but even if they are all guilty it does not excuse what Hock did or lessen his actions so why the need to repeat it?, Those other misdemeanours you talk about are all separate incidents and should be dealt with separately on their merit and not lumped together to suit your argument. You've keep repeating yourself that he's a coward and an idiot, Oh and you keep on labouring the point that your not defending him, what is your point then?.

how Wigan keep getting away with it is unbelievable. believe in the hudds game tony club does a cannon ball tackle on a Hudds player, crowd react, no action taken by anyone....

having watched both games only on TV i believe the chicken wing to be more malicious. hock was just being, well hock. he hardly smashed his knees into anyone, however the chicken wing was deliberate and malicious. had it been 3 games each running concurrently i think might have been "fairer" but 6 games for that is daft when compared to some "attacks" ie benny westwood in round 1

Well said Rhino - totally concur - really feel the club should appeal and try for a 3 match concurrent ban substituted.

If bans run concurrently, you are offering players like Hock carte Blanche after being put on report for the first. Knowing he could only get 3 games, what would of stopped him doing it again and again until he caught a nose or a cheek bone and did some serious damage?

Have there been more dangerous acts this year than Hock dropping the knee? Yes, absolutely. but the sheer fact he was stupid enough to do the same thing 8 minutes later warrents the bans not running concurrently.

The problem is the disciplinary committee are prejudice and Hock's previous behaviour has influenced their decision on the severity of the punishment. Hock is damaged goods unfortunately.

true, but it does seem unduly harsh. as shed just mentioned, i feel his previous history is clouding judgement.

as an edit, just checked the disciplinary and clubb had to use an EGP, missed that wen i read it.

Anyone seriously think it will be his last ban this season ?