I don't think anything paid off in the end. Hock is not a prop he needs to play at second row. Sorry but one of Paterson, Hock or Hansen will have to sit on the bench. MCB needs dropping he is just a sprinter and should just cover the wings.

We have all been there. The problem with Salford is the way everyone has been mouthing off since day one under the doctor how you're going to run away with everything just because he can buy who he wants. Maybe you should try a few of your juniors..........oh hang on you can't.
Stick with it. Quiten down . It's bound to happen. Get a proper coach. Crack on see you soon at the KC

A big part of why Saints/Wigan/Leeds do well is they have a team full of lads who grew up supporting the club they play for, that alone gives them more drive and pride.
Morley unfortunately has little to offer now (i felt bad writting that), Harrison is the captain, he needs to convey/transfer his pride into a band of mercenaries and people who are living off past reputation, neigh on impossible.
Quick fix never seems to work in this game, he needs to heavily invest(if he hasn't already) in the local youth.

Hit the nail on the head there mate

Truely awful display after the promises of last week, to have 50 put past you at home (even if it was the champions) with that team is just simply not acceptable.

The defence was woeful, some of the one on one tackling was embarrassing, I cannot believe that no ones mentioned Grifthen at right centre he was blowing after 10 mins and his poor positional play leaked 3 try's down the right.

Locke being selected the mind boggles, when Evalds is equally as good.

As for the crowd for a Thursday night on Sky I thought it wasn't toooooo bad, but certainly will not have done us any favours with the casual attenders watching from the armchair.

Certainly has to be a 200% committed team improvement against Hull or we could be starting 0/4, morale wise that would be a difficult hole to pull overselves from for a top 8 finish.

Spot on.

Had the same conversation about local youth in Eccles RL last night, only just getting set on that front but I think it's years too late. Feel sorry for the Doc what has he got himself in to, not felt this low about a game for years still hard to comprehend.

It'll be hard to convince others let alone myself to go again for the foreseeable future, such a let down as always really thought after all these years we were turning a corner...gutted.

Looks like a player that doesn't want to be here to me. I'll be shocked if still playing in super league by the end of the season.

I agree on that, there looks to be a lingering injury that he's brought over with him, let's face it he's young and brilliant on his day so why did no NRL team offer him more than we did?

Evalds is undoubtedly the future at full back for Salford.

Devastating is not a word I like to use very often but after that performance last night, I think it merits it!

Salford needed to win against saints to send out a message to those fans who are sitting on the fence about whether to come back and start watching them, unfortunately that message was sent out loud and clear and has probably pushed Salford back another 6 months in trying to persuade them to return.

I got the feeling last night that the players believed in their own hype and thought all they need to do is turn up. They lacked composure, fitness, energy and most of all passion! Salford need big fast mobile forwards like Greenwood, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Amor etc. These type of players will give you energy, drive and size and will lay down the platform for the backs to do their stuff. Salford also need to pay attention to the detail on and off the pitch and I don’t mean just detail on how they play but detail on how they look, perception is very important for example I personally hate it when I see players wearing socks pulled down, they look unprofessional and scruffy. I think every single Saints player last night had their socks pulled up and looked smart and professional throughout the whole game. I know it sounds daft saying stuff like that but it is just an example of the marginal gains on and off the pitch that make the difference, ask Dave Brailsford he will tell you. We need a complete overhaul on stuff like the player’s diet, the players sleeping regime even down to what type of car they drive, all these things will have a bearing on what type of condition they will be in mentally and physically when playing a game.

Sorry for the moan but I am just gutted and I don’t think things could really get any worse. We need to reset ourselves work even harder and quietly go about our business and stop bigging ourselves up until we earn the right!

One last thing and a few fans have touched on this already but we definitely need players who are fans of the club, they will give you more passion and desire. Just look across the ship canal to our neighbours United and the class of 92. The reason why they were and are so successful was because they had Scholes, Beckham, Neville, Butt and Giggs all fans and all willing to die for the club!

There's a brilliant young player over in Leigh who lives and breathes Salford he'd do for a start, Evalds to the best of my knowledge is a Salford fan too.

Even the minutes applause took place during the wrong minute. Bad day all round.

I wouldn't read too much into that, surely you didn't go into that game thinking you might feasibly win? There is a long season ahead, I still think Salford have enough quality to avoid the million pound game. From there hopefully you invest in youth, that's the way forward

Win or not i think people expected them to compete, they did last week.