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Marwan couldn't make it because he is in amsterdam meeting with bosses from an australian club and signing papers to buy them

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Quote: ex-salfordian "Marwan couldn't make it because he is in amsterdam meeting with bosses from an australian club and signing papers to buy them'"


Always a pleasure to read your informative and positive input.

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Perhaps the club would benefit from having a Director of Communicationsof[/i bought <insert player, club, whatever here> instead."icon_wink.gif.

We need someone to ensure that the website is usable; that offers are properly communicated (I went to a gig at the Bridgewater Hall once - I now get regular mailings from them); to make sure the club are visible in the community (I went to the Ordsall Festival over the summer. It's run on a budget that wouldn't even stretch to a shoestring, yet there were hundreds - maybe more than a thousand - people there. A stall with a couple of players doing basic skill stuff would, I feel, have been a major attraction, and I'm sure the festival organisers would snap their hands off if they offered); to drip feed information to the media on a daily basis so that Neil Barker doesn't have to rely on rumours. For example, we supposedly have the players going out to local schools on some promotional activity, yet I've not seen anything in the local press about it (notwithstanding the fact that the timing of it is barmy: "Yes! I'm interested! I really want to go! When's your next match?", "Errr, dunno. Some time in February probably." That's something else you'd hope a Communications Director would be involved in.)

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This is the first time Salford hasn’t been incorporated into the merchandise of the club and I for one find this disturbing, I think if they tried to change the name to Manchester it would be a huge mistake and wont pack the crowds in! It will in my opinion signal the end of RL in the area. A successful wining SALFORD team with a stadium accessible to everyone is the key

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Quote: djws61 "This is the first time Salford hasn’t been incorporated into the merchandise of the club and I for one find this disturbing, I think if they tried to change the name to Manchester it would be a huge mistake and wont pack the crowds in! It will in my opinion signal the end of RL in the area. A successful wining SALFORD team with a stadium accessible to everyone is the key'"


Playing devils advocate here so don't bite my head off...

If the people of Salford don't come out and support MK and the Club IF we are successful, the last excuse will have passed and a name change (Or an incorporation of the Manchester name) would have to be tried. For a city that is fiercely independent from Manchester, it's public are terribly apathetic of its RL team. The irony in all this is a lot of the same people support Manchester UTD and see no conflict over names.

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Quote: TheButcher "Playing devils advocate here so don't bite my head off...

If the people of Salford don't come out and support MK and the Club IF we are successful, the last excuse will have passed and a name change (Or an incorporation of the Manchester name) would have to be tried. For a city that is fiercely independent from Manchester, it's public are terribly apathetic of its RL team. The irony in all this is a lot of the same people support Manchester UTD and see no conflict over names.'"

I am a proud Salfordian
and still believe if we have a successful SALFORD team we will see the crowds increase and I personally know people who are season ticket holders from Stockport and Bolton who follow the reds so I cant see the argument about changing the name so the people of Greater Manchester are not suddenly going to flood through the gates because of a name change!!

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Quote: djws61 "I am a proud Salfordian
and still believe if we have a successful SALFORD team we will see the crowds increase and I personally know people who are season ticket holders from Stockport and Bolton who follow the reds so I cant see the argument about changing the name so the people of Greater Manchester are not suddenly going to flood through the gates because of a name change!!'"


I'd hazard a guess that a large percentage of Salford's hardcore support are non-Salfordians. In fact a poll on here a while back asked the question and the results were high for non-Salfordians. As for the name change, I didn't say that changing it was good, bad, or going to make a difference. Just that it could possibly become an issue if Salfordian's forego their local team. Personally, I think a name change the least likely option. I can see MK taking the Club elsewhere (Like Sale have) keep the name, and plonk it down in a different catchment area. Especially as he is not a fan of the current set-up with the stadium company.

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Then its goodnight and from me and 40yrs plus support me!!

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Quote: TheButcher "The irony in all this is a lot of the same people support Manchester UTD and see no conflict over names.'"


A lot of the same people support football clubs from other areas of the country. I doubt they'd be chuffed if the club was renamed the same as one of them.

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Hasn't Marwan already said he won't be dropping Salford from the club name? It would be a very high risk strategy since it jeopardises the club's relationship with the City of Salford, a relationship that sees the city help prop the club up, sometimes at the expense of those sections of society that Coun. Garrido has suddenly become concerned for. It would also alienate a huge number of existing fans with no evidence that people from elsewhere would step in to replace them.

Ain't going to happen. What's keeping the club's attendances down is a quarter of a century of surviving rather than thriving. John Wilkinson never had enough money to take the step up that's required to give the people a team worth supporting. Marwan has, and it generated enough optimism to see attendances around the 7500 mark at the start of last season. If anything is going to bring the punters in, it's that kind of investment in the club and a concentrated effort to make the club more visible, not a name change.

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Quote: djws61 "Then its goodnight and from me and 40yrs plus support me!!'"


I'm amazed at people with this attitude.

Willing to forego forty years of support over a name. It's still the same Club. The same players. The same stadium. The same history. I understand the deep-rooted Salfordian pride but it's pretty ridiculous that out of all the things to wave goodbye to your Club over, this is not particularly up there. I'll not turn my back on the poor management, the near financial destruction of the Club, the thirty-odd years of decline, the loss of our old home, the loss of losing our own stadium, the change of identity. Twice. Change the name or incorporate another and that's forty years of my life gone. Goodbye.

It seems totally weird to me.

I'd understand you walking after any number of the things I've said above, but a simple name change?

The NRL Clubs managed it years ago. Merging Clubs and changing names. Some fans were not happy but they had no choice. Did they turn their back on their Club?

Let me reiterate that I was playing Devils Advocate and I actually think a name change unlikely and of little use in the current context. I just find it amazing that 'Fans' could walk away from their Club over such a non-issue, even if it is just a 'what if?'

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Quote: TheButcher "I'm amazed at people with this attitude.

Willing to forego forty years of support over a name. It's still the same Club. The same players. The same stadium. The same history.

It seems totally weird to me.
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But what if it was a different name and a different stadium? Like this place, for example: www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ng-7170040
Quote: TheButcher "I'm amazed at people with this attitude.

Willing to forego forty years of support over a name. It's still the same Club. The same players. The same stadium. The same history.

It seems totally weird to me.
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But what if it was a different name and a different stadium? Like this place, for example: www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ng-7170040


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Quote: TheButcher "Then its goodnight and from me and 40yrs plus support me!!'"


I'm amazed at people with this attitude.

Willing to forego forty years of support over a name. It's still the same Club. The same players. The same stadium. The same history. I understand the deep-rooted Salfordian pride but it's pretty ridiculous that out of all the things to wave goodbye to your Club over, this is not particularly up there. I'll not turn my back on the poor management, the near financial destruction of the Club, the thirty-odd years of decline, the loss of our old home, the loss of losing our own stadium, the change of identity. Twice. Change the name or incorporate another and that's forty years of my life gone. Goodbye.

It seems totally weird to me.

I'd understand you walking after any number of the things I've said above, but a simple name change?

The NRL Clubs managed it years ago. Merging Clubs and changing names. Some fans were not happy but they had no choice. Did they turn their back on their Club?

Let me reiterate that I was playing Devils Advocate and I actually think a name change unlikely and of little use in the current context. I just find it amazing that 'Fans' could walk away from their Club over such a non-issue, even if it is just a 'what if?''"

So if it's still the same club with the same players, the same stadium and the same history, and the name is insignificant compared to those factors, what do you (devil's) advocate a name change would achieve?

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Quote: Red John "So if it's still the same club with the same players, the same stadium and the same history, and the name is insignificant compared to those factors, what do you (devil's) advocate a name change would achieve?'"


If you read what I said you wouldn't need to ask.

I don't think it would do anything at this point in time. All of this was hypothetical. My point being, regardless of my opinion, the 'Name change' debate to me seems nonsensical in that people declare that they would turn their back on their Club over a name. Which to me seems totally weird.

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