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| Crazy incident. I don't think for one minute he's deliberately thought about hitting the ref, one second he's in for a try the next he's smashing into the referee. It all happens too quickly to be premeditated. Bizarre how seems to dip the shoulder in though as if this would be better than clattering front on?
Very odd.
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| Case Number ON/121/12
Name Ryan Bailey
Club Leeds
Shirt Number 16
Match Leeds v Warrington
Competition Super League
Date 09/03/12
Incident considered Deliberate physical contact with a match official in 36th minute
Decision Charge
Details of Charge / Reason for NF Rule: 15.1(i) Detail: Deliberate physical contact with a match official Grade: C MRP - Referred to tribunal
Range of Recommended Sanctions in relation to Charged Grade* 2-3 matches
Date of Disciplinary Committee 13/03/12
Evidence provided DVD and letter from match official.
Decision On Charge
Player plea Guilty
Summary of CM's submissions on the Charge / evidence The Panel reviewed an incident which occurred in approximately the 36th minute of the Match. In the Panel’s opinion you made deliberate physical contact with the referee. The Panel believed that this behaviour was serious misconduct, unnecessary and against the spirit of the game. In accordance with the RFL’s On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the Panel consider that such offence is a Grade C offence (Deliberate physical contact with a match official). If found to have committed the offence, again in accordance with the On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the normal suspension range for such offence is from 2 match suspension to a 3 match suspension. In addition the Tribunal has the power to impose such fine as it considers reasonable.
Summary of Player's submissions on the Charge / evidence Player admitts guilt.
Decision Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision
Decision On Sanction (where found to have committed Misconduct)
Summary of CM's submissions on the appropriate sanction No further submissions.
Summary of Player's submissions on the appropriate sanction Mr McDermott believes Mr Bailey is guilty of the offence. Mr McDermott does feel that the match official’s postioning was poor, however Mr Bailey should have realised that the match official was not a decoy runner. In addition he should have taken a more appropriate course of action in attempting to move around him.
Aggravating Factors
Mitigating Factors Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision The panel believe that Mr Bailey should have dealt with the situation in a different way. There was a deliberate push on the referee and continued petulance showed towards the referee after the try was scored. The panel will not tolerate any aggression showed towards a match official. The panel have taken into account the plea of guilt but cannot overlook the seriousness of this incident. It is therefore the opinion of the committee that a 3 match suspension and a £300 fine is in order.
Suspension 3 matches
Fine £300
Warning
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| Just watched Saturdays highlights again and something that struck me on the day that I've just seen again is that there was nothing made of the tackle on Sa'u. I'm pretty sure that the Hull player was guilty of nothing more than a lazy tackle but the Ref said nothing at all, too then have Hock up before the beak for an offence in the same game is a bit of an insult to the players if you ask me.
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| This is the third time he's done it, looking at six games at least. The guys a complete waste of time and money, yes a good rugby player on his day but his days are few and far between. He's no good to Salford sat in the stands
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| Let's be honest the guy has got previous, in this incident he has a lot of time to move out the way and he drops his shoulder last second. Before i seen the incident i though it was a farce, but after seeing it last night on super league full time i can't think of anything but stupidity! Cracking player but a damn liability. Let's just hope he gets away with a 4 game ban and comes back and gets us a top8 place!
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https://vine.co/v/Mx2LhEaVpeP
I saw this on sarurday and didn't think much of it, but as you can see with this replay, drops his shoulder and carriers on.
Now I would say momentum didn't help, but also in an innocent collision you don't drop your shoulder?!
Fear it will be 4 games for him, bad timing especially with leeds coming up!!
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https://vine.co/v/Mx2LhEaVpeP
I saw this on sarurday and didn't think much of it, but as you can see with this replay, drops his shoulder and carriers on.
Now I would say momentum didn't help, but also in an innocent collision you don't drop your shoulder?!
Fear it will be 4 games for him, bad timing especially with leeds coming up!!
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| I'm fascinated by this.
For the life of me I can't believe he did it on purpose,no matter how it looks.
The missing information is what Hock is saying.
Just seen that the Doctor is tweeting no way was it deliberate and the club will defend him
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| Quote: Michigan red "Conspiracy theory after last weeks marquee vote/non vote anyone.'"
Hock was so annoyed at the result he decided to shoulder charge a ref? It's possible.
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| total stupidity, sorry but that is not momentum. We need him at this crucial period and he has let everyone down.
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| Quote: clothes prop "back for the play offs!'"
Hahahahahaha!
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| I am with Bonita Red, I cant see him doing this on purpose. Contact looks inevitable, I don't think he could pull out but its the dipping of the shoulder I cant get over. Does he stumble? Doesn't look like it from what I can see.
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| Hock could have avoided the ref or at least avoided the severity of the contact endured by Thomason. Granted he is running at full pelt, but he clearly dips his shoulder into the ref and then carries on driving forward, sitting the ref down in the front row of the North stand. Needless, pointless act, which he could have avoided.
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| I've watched the video a few times and still can't work out whether it was intentional or not. If it was any other player I'd say it was an accident but you never know with Hock.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "I am with Bonita Red, I cant see him doing this on purpose. Contact looks inevitable, I don't think he could pull out but its the dipping of the shoulder I cant get over. Does he stumble? Doesn't look like it from what I can see.'"
Come on pal he could have stopped or avoided him, the official must be 8 meters away and he stumbles about five steps before the collision. The only question for my is why has he done it - not is it on purpose
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| Deffo looks deliberate, just wonder if he was trying to wrap his arms round the ref to stop him falling backwards. The clip cuts off straight after the incident so does any one know if Hock helped the ref to his feet or if he apologised. Either of these actions would go some way towards proving it wasn't deliberate.
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