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| Good post RDP. However, last years Cas side had a lot more potential than the rabble Noble took over.
Onto this year, I am supportive of Harris however my main point was the sacking of Noble has set us back another 4-6 weeks, as Harris now has to attempt to improve the style of play with a squad set up to play the Noble way.
There would/will be little or no difference in results this year under Harris or Noble IMO.
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| Quote: Talent Spotter " However, last years Cas side had a lot more potential than the rabble Noble took over.
Onto this year, I am supportive of Harris however my main point was the sacking of Noble has set us back another 4-6 weeks, as Harris now has to attempt to improve the style of play with a squad set up to play the Noble way.
There would/will be little or no difference in results this year under Harris or Noble IMO.'"
I sense you are sympathetic to Noble.
Taking your first point allows me the opportunity to question the retention by Noble.
Jordan James - Released for the 2nd time by Noble.At Easter featured against St Helens.His current side higher in Super League - still in the Tetleys CC
Ashley Gibson - Featured for Cas on Easter Monday - beating last years Grand Finalists - Higher in Super League - still in the Tetleys CC
Lee Gaskell - Featured in Bulls coming back from 16 points down to beat Catalan Dragons in Tetleys CC ( This after Steve Ferres stated the previous performance by Bradford was the worst seen in Super League.Is that not putting pressure on players?
Marc Sneyd - Playing for Cas - Higher in Super League - still in Tetleys CC
Under Noble I cannot recall any fightback apart from the CC game at Hull FC earlier this month - not a great advert for the team bonding gained at South Africa.Not a great legacy after 12 months in charge.
I think it unfair to judge Iestyn Harris as he arrived just as the exhausting Easter schedule arrived and had us playing last years league leaders still smarting from a referee influenced CC defeat,and then a game at Leeds.
Even though I want the 3 Saturday fixtures coming up to be SRD victories it may be difficult - [iChris Brookes, the experienced and respected Wigan doctor, said on the BBC 5 Live Sports Extra podcast at Langtree Park on Friday that it is not the Easter Monday games, or even next weekend's cup fixtures, that offer the greatest physiological challenge, but the Super League programme the weekend after that.[/i
Going into June/July I would hope to see a difference in results/performances that we did not see under Noble.
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[quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]: |
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| If I told you the team did little to no ball work in South Africa what would you say?
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "If I told you the team did little to no ball work in South Africa what would you say?'"
I'd say that it was obvious at the start of the season.
I still think it was pure folly to start the season with what was essentially a completely new team with only a game against Leigh and Warrington. South Africa might have been a nice idea if there had been another SL or NRL team there for plenty of contested training sessions and a full blooded game. Other than that we'd have been better spending the fortune it no doubt cost to head down under and learn from how the NRL teams prepare pre season and further warm up games.
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| Quote: Talent Spotter "Good post RDP. However, last years Cas side had a lot more potential than the rabble Noble took over.
Onto this year, I am supportive of Harris however my main point was the sacking of Noble has set us back another 4-6 weeks, as Harris now has to attempt to improve the style of play with a squad set up to play the Noble way.
There would/will be little or no difference in results this year under Harris or Noble IMO.'"
I don't always share the same views but I agree with you on this.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "If I told you the team did little to no ball work in South Africa what would you say?'"
A three week pi$$ up in the sun at the Doc's expense with the titty bitches.
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[quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]: |
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| Not quite. Just conditioning, days off and rest. Minimal ball work. Would have thought it was the ideal time to work on set plays and defence strategies etc, obviously not.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "Not quite. Just conditioning, days off and rest. Minimal ball work. Would have thought it was the ideal time to work on set plays and defence strategies etc, obviously not.'"
Go along with it JGR I'm trying to attract new players here for next year. If this rumor got out every player In SL would want to sign for us
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[quote="Gotcha":y7izhg01]Salford won't win Super League in my lifetime. Even saying in jest they would sounds stupid.[/quote:y7izhg01]: |
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| According to Barker they do!
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| Quote: Red-Devils-PAW "I sense you are sympathetic to Noble.
Taking your first point allows me the opportunity to question the retention by Noble.
Jordan James - Released for the 2nd time by Noble.At Easter featured against St Helens.His current side higher in Super League - still in the Tetleys CC
Ashley Gibson - Featured for Cas on Easter Monday - beating last years Grand Finalists - Higher in Super League - still in the Tetleys CC
Lee Gaskell - Featured in Bulls coming back from 16 points down to beat Catalan Dragons in Tetleys CC ( This after Steve Ferres stated the previous performance by Bradford was the worst seen in Super League.Is that not putting pressure on players?
Marc Sneyd - Playing for Cas - Higher in Super League - still in Tetleys CC.'"
Not quite the whole story.
There was no clamour for Gibson to be retained,and although JJ had a decent end to his Salford career,again it was felt we could do better eg the Walnes,MacPherson,Griffin and/or Rapira on the bench.
I don't think anybody's suggesting that Wigan and Cas are top of the league because of those 2.
Gaskell was offered terms to stay,but went.
Sneyd was part of the Rangi deal and will be coming back to us.
If the doctor had started the season with James and Gibson in the 19, it would have been said that we hadn't progressed.
Hindsight is wonderful but you're skewing the facts to suit your argument
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Ken Gill could make the ball talk.: |
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| Quote: Bonita Red "Not quite the whole story.
There was no clamour for Gibson to be retained,and although JJ had a decent end to his Salford career,again it was felt we could do better eg the Walnes,MacPherson,Griffin and/or Rapira on the bench.
I don't think anybody's suggesting that Wigan and Cas are top of the league because of those 2.
Gaskell was offered terms to stay,but went.
Sneyd was part of the Rangi deal and will be coming back to us.
If the doctor had started the season with James and Gibson in the 19, it would have been said that we hadn't progressed.
Hindsight is wonderful but you're skewing the facts to suit your argument'"
I am not disagreeing with your post.I was just analyzing the recruitment and retention and how it has panned out.
It has to be hindsight because I tend not to make predictions and leave difficult tasks to the experts.
I don't think Julie Stott is a friend of the club - she assisted on the Malcolm Alker book,so may have a jaundiced view.
Hinting at unrest is the last thing the coaching staff need.
It never rains - it pours.
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| From a supporters perspective it’s encouraging to read that Harris and Hock have the hunger for Salford to succeed and aren’t reluctant to say it as it is.
They haven't looked like a tight unit so far this year and we don't want mercenaries or slackers at this club. It will be most interesting to see if there is a positive responce on Saturday in terms of effort for the full 80 minutes and enthusiasm. Another key indicator will be the players body language which was heavily criticised by Earl Crabree summarising on radio five live last Sunday.
I think this newspaper article certainly puts every player under the microscope now, especially with the match being on TV.
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| I have used my limited brain power to try and establish who the players referred to in the Hock article may be,and why.I cannot work it out.
Salford Red Devils and Junior scored a try.
Meli appears to be carrying an injury and Chase was his usual unpredictable self.
Theo has had game time and Mozza was MoM in the first home game for Harris.
Tomkins brought to the club by Harris and Tasi scored his first try for the club.
Lee was his usual industrious self - and appeared to be the most disappointed at the end of the game.
Smith could have been silly and unprofessional after being rested for the Leeds game - but the side picked up on his introduction and our points started picking up.
Griffin didn't appear any different and Rapira and Puletua may not be 100% fit.
I think Gareth Hock may have put himself under pressure for consistent 80 minute efforts himself.
That should make things interesting...
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icons1949_files/4193-180guyguyme2003-msnicons.gif The fans, the members, the people there.. from the day I stepped foot onto that field at the AJ Bell Stadium,I knew I would love that club for the rest of my life. "Jackson Hastings"..
Worry a little bit every day and in a lifetime you will lose a couple of years. If something is wrong, fix it if you can. But train yourself not to worry. Worry never fixes anything.
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| Quote: RedDave "Gareth Hock doesn't believe this was good enough if the Daily Star is to be believed!
Naaah can't be true, we have been told this on the turkey many times before, that players always go out to give 100%. Over to you and your lawyers Gaz, go get em !!!!
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