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| The result would suggest Betts wasn't out of line saying it, I thought he had thicker skin than that?
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| Quote: Wirecutter "Denis Betts made a comment to the press after the game saying he thought Widnes were a million miles better than Salford. It seems the Doc has taken offence and thinks it's bad sportsmanship.
It was Denis Betts comment that even if Meli had scored the try right near the end that would have tied the game he said Tommy Lee wouldnt have converted the try anyway.
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| Quote: JobsForTheWives "It was Denis Betts comment that even if Meli had scored the try right near the end that would have tied the game he said Tommy Lee wouldnt have converted the try anyway.'"
Tommy Lee isn't a regular goal kicker and it's highly unlikely he would have nailed it from the touchline, going off his previous attempts. I think Betts was just being honest rather than disrespectful.
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| Quote: Wirecutter "Tommy Lee isn't a regular goal kicker and it's highly unlikely he would have nailed it from the touchline going off his previous attempts. I think Betts was just being honest rather than disrespectful.'"
Nobody is disputing that but when was the last time you saw a post game interview where one teams coach starts bagging the other teams players on an individual basis.It was a pointless comment that cant be proved right or wrong anyway so why say it.Just bad taste really.
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| Quote: JobsForTheWives "Nobody is disputing that but when was the last time you saw a post game interview where one teams coach starts bagging the other teams players on an individual basis.It was a pointless comment that cant be proved right or wrong anyway so why say it.Just bad taste really.'"
I wasn't aware that Betts was publically criticising our players individually. Which of our players was he bagging?
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| Betts is a good coach but his mouth normally opens before his brain engages.
Shame that a Salford lad should be disrespectful
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| Quote: Wirecutter "I wasn't aware that Betts was publically criticising our players individually. Which of our players was he bagging?'"
Tommy Lee.
Thats why the Doc got upset,nothing to do with Betts saying he thought Widnes were the better team and deserved the win.
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| It does seem a bit hypocrytical to me. The Doc blasts the players about not respecting the shirt on Twitter but he then takes offence at an opposing coach for saying he didn't think a player (who isn't a regular kicker) would have kicked one from the touchline at the end.
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| Even if he had of kicked it the chances are the touchies might not have given it, the conversion in the second half where it clearly went over gave added motivation to the players, the fact there was a stoppage in play not too long after that just let them get back their normal lethargic selves.
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| In all fairness Lee appeared to nail one from the touch line earlier.
I wasn't in the best position to comment, but did it go over? Looked good for me. I noticed one TJ didn't know whether to put his flag up or down, comical.
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| Quote: John Gilbert Reds "In all fairness Lee appeared to nail one from the touch line earlier.
I wasn't in the best position to comment, but did it go over? Looked good for me. I noticed one TJ didn't know whether to put his flag up or down, comical.'"
I couldn't have been on a better angle between Lee and the trajectory of his kick, for me (and the two people I was with) the kick 100/% went over. Think the ruling is if one is unsure and the other thinks it has that they say no conversion. Bit of a joke but then again we do have the smallest goal posts I've ever seen and the fact they are made of plastic and blow around in the wind doesn't help either.
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| Definitely looked over to me, would love to see a video.
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| I thought the rule is if one raises a flag and the other doesnt the ref makes the call.
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| Quote: Wire Yed "I thought the rule is if one raises a flag and the other doesnt the ref makes the call.'"
The ref does make the call regardless (he can even say no goal even if both touchies say it was and vice versa etc) - if the ref is unsure, the standard practice is to listen to the touch judge who was on the inside post (aka the one closer to the kicker)
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| Quote: Wire Yed "I thought the rule is if one raises a flag and the other doesnt the ref makes the call.'"
It didn't happen that way. One didn't appear to know - the one who was probably best placed to tell, bizarrely - and looked across to the other for guidance. He indicated it had missed, and they both lowered their flags.
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