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3596.jpg this will not be the end, or even the beginning of the end.
It is merely the end of the beginning
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| Quote: GT "
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning. It's a shame it doesn't happen on here more often.'"
I'll be surprised if that actually happens tonight GT. They'll be the usual crew who hang onto every word John says and believe it with a passion, (look where that has gotten us!?), they'll be the sceptics who'll just listen but have been told not to rock the boat so won't say a thing, then they'll be the realist who will walk away totally dismayed that they've heard it all before!
I don't believe in the slightest that anyone will get answers tonight? Sure you're going to hear that the captain is back at the helm, he'll put a great spin on a desperate situation, he'll tell you that as long as we're all pulling in his direction we'll be fine. Nothing wrong with that so long as past mistakes have been learnt, however, I also think many attending will believe we're still on the same path as the Titanic.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning.? I'm not so sure mate, probably more of a lecture on how things have been and how things are going to be and a good old brow beating to anyone who thinks otherwise.
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| Definately not I couldn't put myself through more lies and spin...
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| Quote: Philyourboots "Ha ha Do you actually think he's going to listen, you're more deluded than I thought. He's only going to get you lot to start eating out of his palms again.'"
Who eats out of his palms? I think you're confusing me with someone else. Then again, I've also been accused of having an anti-club agenda on here before now so thanks for proving the point I'm making about the lack of constructive debates from both sides of the camp.
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| Quote: The Black Cat "I'll be surprised if that actually happens tonight GT. They'll be the usual crew who hang onto every word John says and believe it with a passion, (look where that has gotten us!?), they'll be the sceptics who'll just listen but have been told not to rock the boat so won't say a thing, then they'll be the realist who will walk away totally dismayed that they've heard it all before!
I don't believe in the slightest that anyone will get answers tonight? Sure you're going to hear that the captain is back at the helm, he'll put a great spin on a desperate situation, he'll tell you that as long as we're all pulling in his direction we'll be fine. Nothing wrong with that so long as past mistakes have been learnt, however, I also think many attending will believe we're still on the same path as the Titanic.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning.? I'm not so sure mate, probably more of a lecture on how things have been and how things are going to be and a good old brow beating to anyone who thinks otherwise.'"
Unfortunately, you might be right. If the debating techniques on here are anything to go by it'll turn into a bunfight between the "everything's sh*t and you all want sacking" brigade and the "we're well run on a shoe string, you can't blame anyone at the club" brigade.
No doubt I'll get accused of being on both sides. Again.
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11969.jpg Me and are kid (TheButcher) putting the world two rights.
ERIC SHAW PREDICTION LEAGUE & PLAY OFFS WINNER 2013
Don't like it? Well Frack off then. Energy & progress for all.
Foe is our friend.
mitie mouse, Lancetodd, Marshy1, eccles star, Dantes Inferno, Philyourboots, biggunbrad, DAVE@CAS1990, RED LEAGUE, OzWelsh, Red-Devils-PAW, newgroundb4wakey
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| Quote: Philyourboots "I'd stay away from tonight's Q & A's if I was you MM. Forget the Dragons den type crowd in attendance because the realists already know this meeting is a farce, tonight's crowd will be like the pied pipers followers dancing to his latest tune of spin with possibly the main event being a 3rd 5 year plan in six month. A chance to paper over his cracks with Michegan Red spinning on his back doing a windmill.
This meeting has only come about because the Salford Star put a spanner in the works of the councils secret bailout plan meaning the spin doctor Wilkinson now has to face the music. The beach boys heads will be back in the sand by 19
Another add to the foes list.
Most of the people I know who are attending are doing so with valid salient questions to pose to the members of the board in question, they will ask in a reasoned manner not in the accusatory tone the members of the spasticity gang continually do on here.
Do you not think it is time to not have sides, cliques or chips on our shoulders? It would be much more productive if people saw the bigger picture for once?.
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| Quote: GT "Actually, most people I know are going along to constructively question the club about the current situation, find out the level of sh*te we are actually in and try to help find a way forward. Can't do that if you're just going with the intention of calling everyone c*nts. Similarly, if you're just going to laud Wilky and not be open to any criticism then you're not going to help either.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning. It's a shame it doesn't happen on here more often.'"
Whatever form your meeting takes I hope you all get the answers and results you wish for.
Good luck and let's hope it's positve news for a change.
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| Quote: RedTez "'ll be surprised if that actually happens tonight GT. They'll be the usual crew who hang onto every word John says and believe it with a passion, (look where that has gotten us!?), they'll be the sceptics who'll just listen but have been told not to rock the boat so won't say a thing, then they'll be the realist who will walk away totally dismayed that they've heard it all before!
I don't believe in the slightest that anyone will get answers tonight? Sure you're going to hear that the captain is back at the helm, he'll put a great spin on a desperate situation, he'll tell you that as long as we're all pulling in his direction we'll be fine. Nothing wrong with that so long as past mistakes have been learnt, however, I also think many attending will believe we're still on the same path as the Titanic.
Middle ground, healthy debate and questioning.? I'm not so sure mate, probably more of a lecture on how things have been and how things are going to be and a good old brow beating to anyone who thinks otherwise.'"
I am afraid after supporting & hanging on to every word of JW I actually agree wit Black cat & others, who say this is another tactic of JW & the board to buy more time, for me the only reason this meeting is taking place is because the cover has been broken & they need to real us in once again to believe every word said.
I will support Salford financially as a member of forever reds in any way I can but not with the present board who I have lost total faith in.
Good luck to all those supporters attending the meeting, I hope I am proved wrong.
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| I can't see any light at the end of this.
JW hasn't got any money left.
Peel don't want to pay off the debts
There isn't a rich investor waiting in the wings.
Winding up or Admin is all I can see in our future sadly.
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Folly ARLFC
Good john wilky last looked out
on the pitch at salford.
when the snow lay round about
deep and crisp and even
brightly played the lads that night
though the frost was cruelllll
when poor swinton scored a try
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| Same old bullsh*t from 'Sir John', did I expect anything more? No and to the the club lauders you're doing more harm than anyone, no wonder the club can't see the error in their ways if you're happy to accept it!!!
Wilky slagging Tarry off was a highlight for me, the Chairman has kept him on for nearly 30 years, but knew he couldn't do his job deep down. Also he gives Simms loads of credit for organising flights to Catalan and coaches to London, then goes on to say how he also does this and that for the club including getting visas and player medicals....Ahhhh just like the medical he didn't give Phil Bailey, Luke Patten and Vinnie Anderson before they signed???
I'm all for getting helping the club believe me, no Salford = no Scholesy family, but what I heard today angered me greatly, yet again we were compared to Warrington and Hull....arrrgggghhhhhhhhhh I'm sorry Me chairman we're not Warrington or Hull and the 8000 attendance was never going to happen, you and Mr Tarry were told numerous times in meetings with myself yet still chose to ignore it.
Fuming is not the word...Salford as a top flight club is dead.
P.s - Wilky Lauders do one I'm not in the mood!
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3596.jpg this will not be the end, or even the beginning of the end.
It is merely the end of the beginning
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| Quote: Ave It! "S
Fuming is not the word...Salford as a top flight club is dead.
P.s - Wilky Lauders do one I'm not in the mood!'"
They'll all be back tomorrow Martin, even those that didn't attend tonight!
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| I couldnt attend the meeting, can anyone provide answers on the following points:-
How many attended?
Are there any signs of investors at all?
Have December wages been paid for staff / players?
thanks.
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| Quote: SRLFC JK "I couldnt attend the meeting, can anyone provide answers on the following points
About 200 I'd estimate (I couldn't see much of the upper level)
Yes, a couple. Plus some people who have had past discussions re being recontacted.
It was said that all wages are paid up to date (though I think it was said there was one person as an exception - I wasn't sure on that bit)
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| I'm not a member, but to those that are:
Have your direct debits been taken for the last 2 months?
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| I stopped mine soon as heard the news
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Mine have .
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