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It is nothing to do with people on here running the club down,If every post on this site was saying the opposite
It would still be the same,we new we were going to the new ground two years.most people on here thought we were
going to move,with a great big fanfare,In so much that we let a coach who was probably going at the end of the season
and Mr Simms to bring in eight new players,we now know last season was a disaster,and not a spring board to a new
start at a new stadium.I was at a meeting,Mr Simms telling people we wanted more away fans to come,so what do we
do, we play on Friday night,I have been to Hull lots of time,and would sooner go on Sunday.The people running the club
always thought build a new stadium,and people would come running,they now know the reality,we have got to have a
team,and now people want a winning team,the time to judge is at the end of the season,Warrington did not get fans
over night,only when they started fetching over top Australians and started winning matches,Bradford have not got
the team they had.So they have not got the same fans they once had.

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I am a FR member but only pay my money when asked but never attend due to work commitments, when is the next meeting of FR to take place as I would like to try & attend?

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Quote: Original Salford City Red "If your not a FR member and never been to a meeting how do you know that they are a certain clique?

I am a FR member and I have different views on some things than Pev and other people and we are certainly no clique.

If you haven't seen or heard or read anything about FR at the matches, especially at the Willows or in the RL press or even on Radio Manchester then you must go to matches and live with a blindfold and ear muffs on.

FR are a very dedicated group of people whose sole aim is to help the Salford City Reds in any way that it can,ask Alan Hunte if FR is a clique or not ask the Physio their opinion or better still just watch for the next meeting and come down and see what goes on.

And you never know you may even volunteer to help out one day.'"


Wooooah hold ya horses baby cakes!

1. I rarely comment on here, and it's obvious their is a clique, maybe if you don't see it, it's because your one of them....

2. When was the last time at the Willows there was forever reds people giving leaflets out? As I normally came in through the turnstyle from the club shop or the far corner near the ginnel. Only people who approached me were programme sellers and golden gamble sellers. Can't remember anyone on Rugbyleague phone in mentioning the forever reds, I didn't listen last Thursday so I could be wrong. Also Why dosen't anyone post stuff on Salford facebook page as people seem to talk on there also ask salfordonline to post and put of there website? So am afraid georgous I am keeping my eyes open and ear's peeled. Also since I been to new stadium no F/R presence, although on Friday I was made aware to check my testicals eusa_boohoo.gif

Am not saying the people involved are no dedicated, when I say this I don't mean it disrespectfully, if your going to do something do it properly and not half hearted. I'm willing to donate so spare pennies for a good cause but as I'm not "dedicated" I wouldn't know what the money goes to oppose to lining peoples trips to Catalan eusa_think.gif

So if anyone wants 10 sheets of me I'll be at the London game and show me where to sign up!

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Quote: Swinton_Red "I wouldn't know what the money goes to oppose to lining peoples trips to Catalan
That's one hell of an insinuation is that.

The number of people now involved is very low (I've only just re-joined myself and not helped out for a while...), resources are limited and every attempt in the past at getting new people involved has been met with apathy and, in some case, contempt. This is despite the club making it known quite publicly what cash raised in previous years has been spent on. If you feel you could add more to the Trust and help raise the profile further then you could always make a positive move to get involved.

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next meeting will be announced shortly, surely a bit of libel, (I wouldn't know what the money goes to oppose to lining peoples trips to Catalan) as it states ask Alan Hunte where the money goes, this season we are also running sponsor a try again, last season if you sponsored at try home and away a £100 quid would have been raised imagine if 1000 fans had just done that simple thing we could have raised £100,000, now that sort of money can change things at the club., currently for each £1 a try the total stands at £15 owed by each fan after only 4 games.

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Quote: Swinton_Red "1. I rarely comment on here, and it's obvious their is a clique, maybe if you don't see it, it's because your one of them....
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What kind of clique spends the best part of 9 years trying to get more people involved, invites everybody to meetings, and holds elections every year with an invitation every year for people to stand for the board (only for nobody to come forward)?

There's plenty of people I've met through Forever Reds who I'd never met or spoken to before seeing them at meetings - that's not exactly cliquey.

And for those asking, the next meeting is going to be a Monday towards the end of March - awaiting confirmation on the venue. The plan is to hold 7 fans meetings this year and we're looking at the possibility of moving around different venues around the city.

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Quote: Swinton_Red " I'm willing to donate so spare pennies for a good cause but as I'm not "dedicated" I wouldn't know what the money goes to oppose to lining peoples trips to Catalan viewtopic.php?p=12970794#p12970794
Quote: Swinton_Red " I'm willing to donate so spare pennies for a good cause but as I'm not "dedicated" I wouldn't know what the money goes to oppose to lining peoples trips to Catalan viewtopic.php?p=12970794#p12970794


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The overall intention of Forever Reds is a good one. The intentions when it was formed were solely to help the club and there are still people involved with that intention. However, if people can't see that some use it to get themselves noticed, and help themselves raise their own profile within the club then they can't see the wood for the trees. Unfortunately, FR is nothing like it used to be and never will be. It also doesn't have to be. It needs a fresh approach and somebody with balls who isn't afraid to do the job of a supporters association and be there for the supporters. It needs somebody who doesn't pussyfoot around the club and the chairman and start speaking truthfully about where the issues are in raising the profile of the club. The hard part is that many at the club won't listen. It needs somebody with a spine. Someone who isn't scared of ruining their own reputation with the people at the club in order to say how it is.

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Just away from the Forever Reds bit for a while... as I could go to town on that one... icon_wink.gif

... and back to the crowd issue.

I live in the Irlam/Cadishead area... Everybody knows there is a stadium... Everybody has seen the stadium... But ask somebody when Salford play, and nobody in Irlam and Cadishead will be able to tell you apart from those who already go. When we played Hull on Friday... I spoke to people who had no idea. So... maybe if the club concentrated on promotion in the areas closer to the stadium, they may be able to attract a few people along. I've yet to see anything promoting a game in my area... and this is one area where it should be heavily promoted as everybody who lives in the area pretty much has to pass the stadium to get out of Irlam and Cadishead unless going to Warrington.

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Quote: LoyalFan "Just away from the Forever Reds bit for a while... as I could go to town on that one...
I keep wondering why there isn't a billboard on the A57 it'self to promote games, you have the large area of wasteland between the two entrances and surely a large billboard there would be ideal to promote future games as people are likely to be looking in the direction of the stadium in the first place.

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Here's a suggestion SwintonRed, how about you volunteer to spend the time before games handing out leaflets, being ignored etc. Being accused of theft ?

Clique? maybe but only in that people who attend meetings now know each other.

I haven't been to FR meetings for the last year or so for personal reasons, but I can assure you that being involved is time consuming (did a stint as treasurer) and a thankless task.

People like Iain attend meetings, spend their time trying to understand all the rules and regulations.

Any fund raiser is hard work and often poorly attended, this is after leaflets have been handed out.

New blood is always welcome and the academy welcomes the support.

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Quote: Bigpev "... this season we are also running sponsor a try again ...'"


I've sponsored the tries in the last two seasons but I must have missed seeing that it was running again this season (I can't easily attend meetings because I live in Warrington and don't have my own transport except a bicycle). Can someone ensure that my name is included this year (at £1 per try, home and away) and I will pay up in full at the end of the season. I would describe myself as a sleeping member of FR - they can have my money but not my time.

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Quote: Red Willow "People like Iain attend meetings, spend their time trying to understand all the rules and regulations...'"


Pfft, it's all Oz trips and press schmoozing. Sack the lot of em'. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Michigan red "I keep wondering why there isn't a billboard on the A57 it'self to promote games, you have the large area of wasteland between the two entrances and surely a large billboard there would be ideal to promote future games as people are likely to be looking in the direction of the stadium in the first place.'"


Some sort of banner or sign facing the Barton bridge would also make sense. I have spoken to quite a few who drive past on the m60 everyday and have no idea who plays in the stadium. Often having no idea who SCR actually exist and what game they play.

Also if they are closing the unreserved seating in the east stand, they need to make some available in the west, I know a couple of St holders that have wanted to bring friends to game but cannot sit next to them and that kinda puts new people off coming if they are sitting on their todd.

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Simplez, £20 is too much. I dropped out of watching rugby league more than 3 or 4 times a season when prices went above about £14.

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