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| Quote: Bigpev "Are these the rants of an ex-employee who didn't make the grade but throught they were good enough?'"
My opinions have no bearing on whether i made the grade or not.
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "Why is it you keep rebounding the same old answer "salford would'nt be here if it was'nt for JW". Is that the best you can come back with?
Seen as though you like FACTS ,
Heres a few for you.
What has Salford achieved since 1982?
Nothing . Was a yoyo club until relegation was stopped.
Have we improved as a club.?
No club has no assets, A £4 million debt, crowds decreasing. A ground what is not ours.
WAKEY WAKEY'"
Maybe you'll be happier when that nice Mr Kennedy buys you out ?
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| Quote: Starbug "Maybe you'll be happier when that nice Mr Kennedy buys you out ?
It's disgusting, but there's a handful on here who are now gleefully rubbing their hands at the idea of the club going under. And after all my hard work slating the quality of Warrington's fans last season!..
This forum gets more embarrassing by the day.
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| Sick of these Keyboard Warriors who think they are big and hard by slagging off people on a forum. The thing that makes it worse for me is that they have absolutely no idea what that are talking about, embarrassing!
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| Quote: Lyrad Red "So nearly 20 year's ago JW announced on radio he would "consider" an applicant to take over the club should one approach him? Is that not enough evidence to suggest that should someone approach him he would consider them.....Oh hang on... it is.'"
Your point being what exactly?
Quote: Lyrad Red "Were Man City up for sale when they were approached with a buy out. I think not yet, they too were'nt being managed very well at the time.'"
So you agree Salford are not being well managed but then you go on to state -
Quote: Lyrad Red "Regardless JW has kept this club afloat along witht the board and there money.'"
Without commenting on how that money has been so mismanaged that the club finds itself in the predicament its in today, why?
Quote: Lyrad Red "It goes without saying if someone approached JW and put a a good enough deal on the table
On a) Would it really? Any approach of sale would most likely be a controlled non-disclosure until all due diligence had been sought. Does it go without saying John Wilkinson has not been approached?
On b) Possibly? Its also possible Apple and Samsung will kiss and make up!
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "Why is it you keep rebounding the same old answer "salford would'nt be here if it was'nt for JW". Is that the best you can come back with?
Seen as though you like FACTS ,
Heres a few for you.
What has Salford achieved since 1982?
Nothing . Was a yoyo club until relegation was stopped.
Have we improved as a club.?
No club has no assets, A £4 million debt, crowds decreasing. A ground what is not ours.
WAKEY WAKEY'"
I'm under the impression you believe I'm some massive fanboy of JW? Not in the slightest, I do think the club needs a complete over haul including that at director and chairman level. What I am a firm believer of however is that no one is out there willing to put there hand in there pocket and foot the ever increasing debt of the club.. you come across like you know someone who is therefore are very angry and are kicking yourself because you know exactly how to solve the clubs problem.
The only valid point you argue against me is that the club is mismanaged from the very top to the very bottom. Yup, I agree completely, and what's your point??? Oh you want JW and the rest of the board out? or just JW? If I'm right there then I go back to my original point which is I doubt very highly there's someone out there who want's to take over as chairman and inherit that very debt. My lesser argument being that had the chairman not put his hand in his pocket we would have faced administration (possibly around the time of the first franchise applications) making it an even tighter scrape between us an Widnes in 2008. Anyway in case I've confused you allow me to simplify. I too believe the club needs a change of personal, however there is no one out there mad enough to take up the challenge.
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| Quote: Lyrad Red "
The only valid point you argue against me is that the club is mismanaged from the very top to the very bottom. Yup, I agree completely, and what's your point??? Oh you want JW and the rest of the board out? or just JW? If I'm right there then I go back to my original point which is I doubt very highly there's someone out there who want's to take over as chairman and inherit that very debt. My lesser argument being that had the chairman not put his hand in his pocket we would have faced administration (possibly around the time of the first franchise applications) making it an even tighter scrape between us an Witness in 2008. Anyway in case I've confused you allow me to simplify. I too believe the club needs a change of personal, however there is no one out there mad enough to take up the challenge.'"
I'd say that just about sums up the situation
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| Quote: BringOnTheSalford "Sick of these Keyboard Warriors who think they are big and hard by slagging off people on a forum. '"
Can I refer the right honorable gentleman to a previous comment
Quote: BringOnTheSalford "Your a complete and utter /TW^4T! Stop following the club if your not going to support it!'"
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| Quote: The Black Cat "
If the club was to enter the verge of bankruptcy, the clubs creditors could ask the High Court to allow the sale of the club which would possibly overrule (IMO) the wishes of John Wilkinson as he seems again IMO not to want to relenquish his position.
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That's one too many IMO's for my liking, and yet you moan about the fan's misinterpretation..anyway
Firstly there is technically no such thing as bankruptcy for LTD companies - despite what the newspapers and TV tell us. Limited companies have several different procedures - the equivalent to bankruptcy being liquidation. After the club was to announce it's insolvency. As the chairman of a limited company, if it goes into liquidation, he would only lose what he put in (assuming he hasn't guaranteed any company loans with personal assets such as his house) therefore JW would never be in any position to not relinquish his position.
Why you feel the need to create an air of selfishness around JW and point out he would get in the way is beyond me. The man only wants what's right for the club, I'm not saying what he wants for the club has done it any good but I do think he's kept it from liquidation which is exactly my point but should it boil down to liquidation the last thing JW could do is stand in the way as you so wrongly point out
Quote: The Black Cat "Quote: The Black Cat "So nearly 20 year's ago JW announced on radio he would "consider" an applicant to take over the club should one approach him? Is that not enough evidence to suggest that should someone approach him he would consider them.....Oh hang on... it is.'"
Your point being what exactly? - He would sell should a good enough offer be put on the table. You make out at the end of your first post that until its announced the club is officially for sale you would take it JW doesn't want to sell, which is why I pointed out the Man City comparison
Quote: The Black Cat "Were Man City up for sale when they were approached with a buy out. I think not yet, they too were'nt being managed very well at the time.'"
So you agree Salford are not being well managed but then you go on to state - Yes thats what I think - I think that because the club hasn't made any visible forward progress both on or financially off the pitch
Quote: The Black Cat "Regardless JW has kept this club afloat along witht the board and there money.'"
Without commenting on how that money has been so mismanaged that the club finds itself in the predicament its in today, why? - I didn't comment because I dont know how the club's money was mismanaged.. I would guess that the current economic climate certainly hasn't helped but I reiterate my main argument - had it not been for JW's deep pocket's and Sky's (cough) generous contribution that current outstanding debt would have lead to insolvency a long time ago, and bearing in mind JW only want's (what he think's) what's best for the club he's done these things to stretch out the life of the club to get it to Barton and then on to a better club etc. IMO
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| Lyrad reds:
look no further than Salford council who I believe are owed some of that 4million?
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| Quote: Bigpev "Are these the rants of an ex-employee who didn't make the grade but throught they were good enough?'"
I see your spelling is'nt perfect Pev. What does throught mean.
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| Quote: Starbug "Maybe you'll be happier when that nice Mr Kennedy buys you out ?
Bring it on is what i say. He's been great for Sale , anythings better than this shower we have running the show at the moment.
But tbh i can'tsee it happening with our current debt situation caused through the great management of our owners.
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| Quote: Dantes Inferno "Bring it on is what i say. He's been great for Sale , anythings better than this shower we have running the show at the moment.
But tbh i can'tsee it happening with our current debt situation caused through the great management of our owners.'"
ask Stockport fans what they think of Kennedy pal !
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| Are you so sure Kennedy is good for Sale?, after his initial enthusiasm which meant they finished top, he has constantly complained about the amount he has to put in and on a number of occasions threatened to remove funding.He will wqlk away without a backward glance and Sale will be in the same hole as Stockport.
Is that who you would like to replace John Wilkinson with?
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| We don't need to replace JW, we need to replace the people who work for him.
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