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| A few have mentioned walking from the Trafford Centre, but how do you get across the river? I know of the motorway which is obviously out of bounds for pedestrians. Upstream is the swing bridge, a bit of a trk. Downstream I think you can get across Irlam locks on foot, again a fair trek. Is there another crossing that I don't know about?
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| The swing bridge is not that far from the Trafford Centre and that would be the crossing, going over the locks is illegal.
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| Wouldn't fancy going over the locks at Barton, I'm not particularly keen on the Irlam ones where there's a proper bridge. Big drop into pitch black water, with them old wooden gates, no thanks good job it's illegal
What's the crack with that planned second bridge over the canal, with the new slip road from the motorway?
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| Quote: TF and the wire "Is there another crossing that I don't know about?'"
There isn't as yet. As far as I know, any new bridges are at least a couple of years away from completion.
There is a potential short cut. Over the bridge, turn left down Peel Green Road, onto Langland Drive. Langland Drive leads onto a private/emergencies only road which leads under the flyover and onto the stadium. Not sure about the legalities of taking that route though and you're still talking about a 20 minute walk.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Will you have a tram station close to the ground?'"
Not yet although there's potential for one in the futurehttps://salford.rlfans.com/web/images/network-map-with-new-extensions.png" >
As the map shows, a new line from Pomona to Port Salford including stops at The Trafford Centre and Salford City Stadium is being proposed. However, it's all subject to funding etc. I think there are public consultations regarding this line in the next couple of weeks or so.
You're talking a good 5-10 years away from fruition.
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| Quote: Michigan red "
On a personal note if they did play all games on a Sunday I know a fair few who wouldn't be able to attend because of family comimitments in the summer.'"
Here's a novel idea how about they bring their family with them to watch the family game and help increase attendances at the same time?
Or would that get in the way of having a drinking session that they like so much?
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| Quote: Michigan red "Long gone are the days where it was soley about the fans I'm afraid.'"
We've already seen this process happen in football, post-Taylor Report and into the Premier League era. It is the model rugby league is following.
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| Quote: The optimist "The reason we for the big crowd v Catalan is I feel us fans turned it into a big event by inviting people who may have walked past the willows once in their life, the club helped with £10 pre gateway price and keeping quiet about how much were sold.
But the way we market the club / games to our mates though various social media is equally important as what the club do imo to make barton a roaring success.'"
I think it was more to do with people who used to go coming back to see the place for one last time. There are a reasonable number of savvy locals, who know the score yet choose not to go to matches these days, that came to the final match. Word of mouth probably played a large part in spreading the word and you can wrap social media into that.
Quote: The optimist "Club management get hung up on the corporate side of things quite often... They see a hundred corporate as a lot easier to attract than 500 'normal' fans , it is where they feel comfortable
But it doesn't work, and it isn't sustainable, especially in the current economic climate, and especially if the cost of it rises when you go to Barton '"
Sure I heard it mentioned that many of the boxes are already sold for the next two years. If that is true, and the boxes were sold on terms that Salford would be playing on a Friday night, I suppose that would go some way to explaining the recent decision. The R.F.L. gave us an insight into how integral the corporate side of things will be in Salford's medium-term business plan
Friday night rugby does seem to conflict with The Family Game®. A similar issue arose in the early 80s, after which we saw the introduction of the Junior Devils. However, I wonder what the balance is between those families that are put off by Friday nights and those businesses that are put off by Sundays? Whose income do the club seek the most? One they can control or one they cannot?
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| Quote: Chico "a new line from Pomona to Port Salford including stops at The Trafford Centre and Salford City Stadium is being proposed. However, it's all subject to funding etc. I think there are public consultations regarding this line in the next couple of weeks or so.
You're talking a good 5-10 years away from fruition.'"
I admire your optimism fella. given that the line which was going to drop people outside the stadium for the commonwealth games is still a year away from opening, I wouldn't hold your breath...
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| Quote: Vestan Pance "I admire your optimism fella. given that the line which was going to drop people outside the stadium for the commonwealth games is still a year away from opening, I wouldn't hold your breath...'"
I doubt it too but after seeing how fast Media City was put together, I wouldn't rule it out in ten. I don't know enough about the processes to make a decent guess.
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| The franchise say you need to increase fan base the club marketing is a joke for games also people finnish work at 5pm and don't have time to get to game its in the end not a viable buisness to rely on corparate to keep club going. Year on year the club promise top 8 finnish yet we get stuffed every week. It can't be good selling point when a new coach comes in and says club is craply run. Its been run poor for years. You can't have a club where no one wants to go any more. And after years of watching rubbish rugby and money not going far why would I waste 20 pounds watching a teamn that shows no intrest in the fans. I have several times asked the club why fans never get asked and the answer I got was there were moire important things to concider. In other words we don't want to here are views so I won't waste my time and money that don't care one bit for supporters.
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| Quote: eccles star "The franchise say you need to increase fan base the club marketing is a joke for games also people finnish work at 5pm and don't have time to get to game its in the end not a viable buisness to rely on corparate to keep club going. Year on year the club promise top 8 finnish yet we get stuffed every week. It can't be good selling point when a new coach comes in and says club is craply run. Its been run poor for years. You can't have a club where no one wants to go any more. And after years of watching rubbish rugby and money not going far why would I waste 20 pounds watching a teamn that shows no intrest in the fans. I have several times asked the club why fans never get asked and the answer I got was there were moire important things to concider. In other words we don't want to here are views so I won't waste my time and money that don't care one bit for supporters.'"
T'raa then.
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| Quote: eccles star "The franchise say you need to increase fan base the club marketing is a joke for games also people finnish work at 5pm and don't have time to get to game its in the end not a viable buisness to rely on corparate to keep club going. Year on year the club promise top 8 finnish yet we get stuffed every week. It can't be good selling point when a new coach comes in and says club is craply run. Its been run poor for years. You can't have a club where no one wants to go any more. And after years of watching rubbish rugby and money not going far why would I waste 20 pounds watching a teamn that shows no intrest in the fans. I have several times asked the club why fans never get asked and the answer I got was there were moire important things to concider. In other words we don't want to here are views so I won't waste my time and money that don't care one bit for supporters.'"
What could be more important than conning cider??
If your not going to be going to games any longer feel free to give the Turkey a swerve to help you get over the club totally.
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| Sometimes the truth hurts. Tell me where I am wrong tell me where the club asked supporters what they prefer. The franchise where am I wrong about new supporters. Is it going to be same as last year where they give free tickets out and still can't fill a stadium. Should I say anymore. Even transport to and from ground is rubbish. Results conceding 40 points plus a game why would a fan come. Also how can you get a young kids interested when they kick off friday night. There won't be kids wanting to come in future if there not coming and getting involved because we kick off late. So you all know it alls what marketing have you seen to pull in crowds as its always poor attendances. So what's are selling point then tell one your all experts
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| Quote: eccles star "Sometimes the truth hurts. Tell me where I am wrong tell me where the club asked supporters what they prefer. The franchise where am I wrong about new supporters. Is it going to be same as last year where they give free tickets out and still can't fill a stadium. Should I say anymore. Even transport to and from ground is rubbish. Results conceding 40 points plus a game why would a fan come. Also how can you get a young kids interested when they kick off friday night. There won't be kids wanting to come in future if there not coming and getting involved because we kick off late. So you all know it alls what marketing have you seen to pull in crowds as its always poor attendances. So what's are selling point then tell one your all experts'"
Maybe the fact that everytime you post you do it in one great long sentance making it very difficult to read and understand.
But the fact remains if you don't like there's nothing stopping you not going to games any more.
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