Makes me laugh when Wigan fans slate other fans, everytime we go there we outsing them, they need an annoying drum to sing when they do, and 5 minutes to go v Huddersfield, 2 points down with a win to give them the shield and their fans were leaving the ground, 18th man my a rse

The thing to remember about players such as Bailey is the impact he can have on our junior members of the squad.

One of the ex Wigan players mentioned Bailey at a FR meeting saying what an influence he was to theacademy players and how much time he gave them.

We seriously lack that sort of example for our players and was part of a "discussion " we had in the shed on Sunday as a couple of us felt that McRae and Alker lacked knowledge for the half backs.

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A gentle reminder of the last time we had a crop of ' Wigan Cast-offs ' put out for retirement ..

Andy Gregory - Steve O'Neil, Steve Blakeley , Scott Naylor , Sam Panapa , Steve Hampson ... As they say the rest is history .

One mans cast-off is anothers top performer...

...Look at Andy Coley.

Amazing as it may seem to some RL fans, some players actually perform better when they leave a club. Amazing stuff, I realise. There's no point in any teams fans getting all high and mighty as 'big-name' players will fail as readily as 'cast-offs' and visa versa.

tsk...

Not much point in debating the virtual size of your Clubs e-penis...

At least the team he left doesnt brake the salary cap and need a bloke name Maurice to keep the in Super League

Nothing against Bailey but id rather us sign another Hooker/Half Back on, Bailey will most probably play second row but im more than happy with Sidlow playing there with Anderson. Just If Holdsworth or Latu get injured for example we will have very little cover in that area. Unless we have plans to sign some backs as well as him & Fekka but i doubt it?

I do see your point but Andy Coley probably isn't the best example to use. It was more of the case that he just decided to stop putting in any effort because he wanted to go/knew he was going. I don't think many people doubted his ability.

A fresh environment is sometimes a good thing for a player and gives them that extra enthusiasm and drive.

Or Adamson.

Why not all four in the 17? You can't look at your team like years back and say what's our strongest team 1-13, it's very much a 17 man team! Years ago the subs were considered the weaker players and only came on if someone got injured.

i don't know if id have bailey, IMO fielden would be a massive signing, if baileys on quota its a wasted spot which could be filled by carl webb happily

Do we need another prop? To my reckoning we already have 6 or 7 for next year. If you think about it we are only releasing Big Phil and it looks like we are adding Palea'aesina, and Neal has already signed. The back row is a different story where we are actually releasing 3 players and have only signed two replacements to date.

true true, if that's the case then it depends where we play him, is sean gleeson still an option?

I know Boyle still has a year left, but has he done enough to impress? Could it be he's not in the clubs long term plans and will only be used when our ranks are depleted next year. Parker's ability to play prop has been questioned since the start of the season and Jewitt doesn't make enough yards. Which leads us to Neal and Sidlow, both have potential but are not ready to lead the line yet. So if anything happened to Cashmere we're left with Feka to lead the line and he doesn't play enough minutes.

So yes if we could add a Fielden or a Webb, we sould. Bailey would give us strength in depth in the back row also. Somebody said Rubgy League was a seventeen man game now, I'd say, with the amount injuries any team gets now it's more like a 25 man game.