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| Quote: Jaymc9 "why are people calling for mcraes head again? did he miss the tackles and make the mistakes? some of our fans are complete muppets!'"
he picks the team
he runs the training
how many times have we put out a team that does not want to know?
how many injures we have that look the same (shoulder)
do we have a game plain?
sorry to say if the club is to move forward with the new ground and players, it must be without our coach and director of rugby
for a winning team we must have a winning coach!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Awful, awful, awful. Enough said.
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| Shocking performance, in front of a rather large away following aswell. We are constantly going on about raising attendances, and when the supporters bother to pay their hard earned money to attend they are subject to an abysmal showing like that!
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| Does anyone think this shocking performance could have anything to do with the fact 50% of the squad are likely to be booted out of the door at the end of the season? Yes you can blame the coach and some poor ref's decisions but I think it's a lot deeper than that. If you were working somewhere and you knew you wasn't wanted anymore would you honestly put 100% effort and commitment in to it? Could it be a case that pressing agents have now told their players there will be no new contract offer from the club? If it was 3 or 4 players not being retained then I'd imagine the rest would pull them through but when its virtually half or more of the seventeen then its a different story.
All I can say is i'd rather go through the pain of an embarrasing result like today now with less to play for than next year if it means we will have better quality players and more commited team.
Maybe it's an ideal time to blood some youngsters now!
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| theredshed - I think you've nailed it spot on - It's been clear for a while that this season is pretty much a write off - getting Holdsworth to commit and then signing Patton is a sign of things looking up, but with nothing to play for and as you say many of the current squad moving on then today's result, whilst dreadful to watch, probably is not too surprising
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| McRaes interview after the game was embarrassing, yet again he does not know what to do.
I do please fook off.
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| Quote: theredshed "Does anyone think this shocking performance could have anything to do with the fact 50% of the squad are likely to be booted out of the door at the end of the season? Yes you can blame some poor ref's decisions but I think it's a lot deeper than that. If you were working somewhere and you knew you wasn't wanted anymore would you honestly put 100% effort and commitment in to it? Could it be a case that pressing agents have now told their players there will be no new contract offer from the club? If it was 3 or 4 players not being retained then I'd imagine the rest would pull them through but when its virtually half or more of the seventeen then its a different story.
All I can say is i'd rather go through the pain of an embarrasing result like today now with less to play for than next year if it means we will have better quality players and more commited team.
Maybe it's an ideal time to blood some youngsters now!'"
Even if they are out the door, surely by putting in a good performance on the pitch they'd be be putting themselves in the shop window for another team to offer them a contract.
Today showed yet again that McRae can't motivate the team against crap opposition. We always seem to put in good performances against the so-called top sides, either losing in a brave fight or pulling off a victory with a great performance. Yet, when we come up against a team in the bottom half of the table we manage to look clueless. Even when we do win we manage to scrape through, looking more likely to gift the game to the opposition.
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| Can't believe I'm defending McRae but does anyone think that his gameplan for today was to tell the players to miss tackles on a consistent basis & to be completely ineffectual on the rare occasions that we had the ball. No? Then maybe, just maybe, today the players were guilty of having a mare.
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| Quote: Adamjk "Even if they are out the door, surely by putting in a good performance on the pitch they'd be be putting themselves in the shop window for another team to offer them a contract.
Today showed yet again that McRae can't motivate the team against crap opposition. We always seem to put in good performances against the so-called top sides, either losing in a brave fight or pulling off a victory with a great performance. Yet, when we come up against a team in the bottom half of the table we manage to look clueless. Even when we do win we manage to scrape through, looking more likely to gift the game to the opposition.'"
If you play for a club in the bottom 3 and your not being offered a new contract are other Superleague clubs going to be interested? The only shop window these players will put themselves in is the National League's where i'd imagine they'd have to take a 75% cut in wages! Not exactly a huge motivation is it?
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| To me it was obvious that the out of contract players were making up the numbers. From the bunch appearing I would guess that Gibson, Jodie, Stef, Smith, Cashmere, Boyle (who had a mare), Sid (injured), Luke (going the wrong way defo) will be with us next time. Totally agree that the young uns be drafted in immediately until the end of the season which cannot come soon enough.
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| Quote: redgunner "I am trying to give a measured response, first the positives, Salford fans who turned up, there were as many Salford fans as crusader fans! Cashmere & Matty Smith were the only two who should actually collect there pay cheque.
Why do we promise so much then against a team around us produce a performance like that, it would be easy to blame the ref who was shocking but we were worse.
For me this is what is wrong with the present structure, no relegation, no pride in some of the players, looks to me like some of the players have been told they don't have a contract next season.
Willie Talau sending him packing now, Fitz had a mare, Alker, looked a shadow of is former self, Luke Swain now going through the motions, Parker finished, weak defence on the right hand side, Ratchford not match fit, J. Smith indiscipline, Adamson looks to be going backwards at present, no punch in attack, what a waste of £20 plus travelling
What really vexed me off is Salford fans turned out in there numbers today & we let them down again, no excuses please!
Our coach Shaun McRae to top it off on our way home & listening to GMR we listened to his post match on the way home, 3 years into a contact & all he could say is he did not have a clue why they played like lemons, at no other super league club would this coach still be in a job!'"
The fact is, should he even have a clue on how we got beat that heavily against a side of our level?
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| Quote: BigReds1 "I don't care what anyone says about what im about to say
McRae has just got to go
he's a useless waste of space !
END OF
He said on the radio i didn't know where we was going wrong !
Who's the coach then ? im sure your meant to know you Slug
i was screaming at John Wilky, he's proved his worth now get rid !
He's got to go !'"
And who do you suggest we could get to take over for McRea?
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| To many muppets on here think macrae is flipping god and the man to take salford city reds forward!!!!!!ive missed only 3rd game of season today and have prob only missed 5 during the slugs helm at the club!some people seriously need to wake up on here,and realise there is another option after macrae has seen out his crazy 4 and half year contract!!!!even top grade premiership footballers dont get that long a contract ffs !!!
rant over
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| Quote: wardleyred "To many muppets on here think macrae is flipping god and the man to take salford city reds forward!!!!!!ive missed only 3rd game of season today and have prob only missed 5 during the slugs helm at the club!some people seriously need to wake up on here,and realise there is another option after macrae has seen out his crazy 4 and half year contract!!!!even top grade premiership footballers dont get that long a contract ffs !!!
rant over'"
Like Ive already said, who else are we going to get?
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| rather someone like paul kidd!!!least he can prob run round on the training pitch with the boys!and would prob be able to look after himself instead of prob costing the club 400 sheets a week for a body guard ffs!!
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