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I have a few issues with it apart from it being a bit of a let down on the design downgrade:
It is stated that it will be a £26m stadium yet its clearly a £12m-£15m design.
Looking at other stadia such as City of Manchester (also a AFL project) which is a £20m 48'000 capacity developement, ours is a rip-off! or how about Preston North End having a £7.1m 22,250 capacity very similar looking yet bigger stadium than us.

Also, the retail area will be used to pay off the loan? Who would want to visit our stadium to shop when just over the road there is The Traffold Centre!!?

And yes the choice is between 'New Stadium' or 'No Stadium' but come on, it seems like Peel have bent us over on this one!

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Has anybody got a link to what the new design would like? Apart from on the reds.co.uk website as im having problems getting on it

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if its on a par with the LSV it will do for me

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Quote: lukicj "
Quote: lukicj "I have a few issues with it apart from it being a bit of a let down on the design downgrade
Why from what I have seen it looks fine
Quote: lukicj "It is stated that it will be a £26m stadium yet its clearly a £12m-£15m design. '"

Have you actually seen the cost of build nowadays, materials have shot up in price along with all the planning and infastructure that goes with it.
Quote: lukicj "Looking at other stadia such as City of Manchester (also a AFL project) which is a £20m 48'000 capacity developement, ours is a rip-off!'"

This was built for the Commonwealth Games in 2002 and then changed into a football stadium. I would be interested to see how much it would cost in todays climate,8 years is a long time in financial terms.
Quote: lukicj "or how about Preston North End having a £7.1m 22,250 capacity very similar looking yet bigger stadium than us.'"

This stadium has been on going for about the past 20 years. They have basically updated the old stadium which was already there, same as what Blackpool have done. Salford are starting from scratch. Also everyone laughed when it was stated we would have a 20k stadium I much prefer the 15k number
Quote: lukicj "Also, the retail area will be used to pay off the loan? Who would want to visit our stadium to shop when just over the road there is The Traffold Centre!!?'"

I would hope there would be restaurants there and other outlets not already in the vicinity,difficult I know with the Trafford centre across the way.Maybe there will be another Tesco icon_wink.gif
I would have also liked the iconic (what the hell does that really mean) design, but come on do you really everthink that was going to happen ?
This is Salford we are talking about here
It does look like the Stoop but If it ends up with facilities like theirs, especially the long bar then I will be more than happy.

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Quote: lukicj "I have a few issues with it apart from it being a bit of a let down on the design downgrade:
It is stated that it will be a £26m stadium yet its clearly a £12m-£15m design.
Looking at other stadia such as City of Manchester (also a AFL project) which is a £20m 48'000 capacity developement, ours is a rip-off! or how about Preston North End having a £7.1m 22,250 capacity very similar looking yet bigger stadium than us.

Also, the retail area will be used to pay off the loan? Who would want to visit our stadium to shop when just over the road there is The Traffold Centre!!?

And yes the choice is between 'New Stadium' or 'No Stadium' but come on, it seems like Peel have bent us over on this one!


I would suggest that the grounds you are talking about were built sometime ago as costs have rocketed over the past few years - you only have to look at the National Wendyball arena in London village to see that, think also the design on the clubs website is representation rrather than a blueprint as I think they would have made more of it if it were, can you honestly see us having green seats??. no more I think it is just an image of a stadium that will looking something like rather than a replica of.

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Yes, my main point is that it isnt the 'iconic' stadium promised, its a bit of a let down after seeing the original rendering. The chances are that it will be a more than adequate stadium and have great on site facilities for both players, management and fans. But many fans will be a little dissapointed in the stadium design itself. Also, that stadium shown on the website will only be a representation of the final build but it will not change that much. Red seats and the facade of the main stand might change slightly, but i cant see it drastically changing.

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Ok, this is really roughly rendered and took 2mins to do as i'm supposed to be working, but seeing as the stadium wont be iconic in itself how about there is an iconic element to it such as having a really fancy main facadehttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/4621094677_c643d86676_o.jpg" >

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It would be seen from the motorway and it clearly shows who plays there and which sport.

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Quote: lukicj "Ok, this is really roughly rendered and took 2mins to do as i'm supposed to be working, but seeing as the stadium wont be iconic in itself how about there is an iconic element to it such as having a really fancy main facadehttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/4621094677_c643d86676_o.jpg" >

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icon_lol.gif . Hopefully passers by won't think the Glazers have set up an American Football franchise of MUFC, The Dumplington Devils icon_biggrin.gif . Would make a nice variation on the half-time "goal kicking comp to win the car" as well. If you hit the logo you also get a caravan thrown in icon_wink.gif .
I'm split on the design tbh. Can see why so many are dissappointed with the original "state iof the art" design being so good but times change and with a bit of tinkering the "LSV/HJ" style ground could do the job. As long as it's got a standing area at the side of the pitch a la The Shed and a decent bar it'll do me nicely. I just hope we take the passion and tradition of The Willows with us as let's face it so many of the new stadia are soulless pits.

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LEGO , springs to mind icon_wink.gif

Seriously though , new stadia are great , if , IF you can fill them , I dont know the ins and outs , but if you dont get income from sales apart from turnstiles , they are not good

Can you get another 5,000 to turn up ?

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i think so but it will need a massive advertising campaign

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Quote: lukicj "Ok, this is really roughly rendered and took 2mins to do as i'm supposed to be working, but seeing as the stadium wont be iconic in itself how about there is an iconic element to it such as having a really fancy main facadehttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/4621094677_c643d86676_o.jpg" >

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