I cannot accept this arguement that we should just take this result on the chin and it isn't the coach's fault.

These players are full time professionals appearing on a big stage. If they were coached properly and had pride in the shirt you would never concede 68 points. NO MATTER WHO YOU WERE PLAYING.

John Kear and Wakefield
Mcrae and Salford
Spot the difference

On the way back from Castleford I said things couldn't any worse. I was wrong.

I think Salford will struggle to attract a top line coach whilst Simms is around. Any coach coming in will want a onr-to-one elationship with the Board and Chief Exec. Simms muddies the waters somehat for mine.

Also, what is the deal with playing Ratchford out wide? The guy is all class and has the ability to control a game. but he certainly isn't going to do that if he isn't in the middle.

Why do you want to get rid of McRae, I think he's doing a cracking job?

He hasn't shown much ability to control a game so far this season.

We were on the back foot from the word go due to the number of cheap penalties given away. Warrington took full advantage without having to get out of 2nd gear. McRae needs to do something about Ste Tyrer. Either take him out of the team or give him some help defensively. At the moment he is a glaring weak link in the defence and his confidence has gone. He is missing too many one on ones. The problem was there for all to see in the Wigan game and nothing has changed.

Some of the defence I saw yesterday is the worse i've seen in watching nearly 40 years of Salford. For a centre to walk past a prop, 2nd rower, hooker and half back and plonk the ball down under the sticks (and i'm talking about Chris Bridge here not Mal Meninga) is not acceptable. The same goes for Vinnie Andersons try, the defensive line just gave up.

On a positive note we looked fairly decent with ball in hand and I know its pointless but the try we had disallowed looked on-side to me however the ref didn't bother going to the screen.

Fair play to Richie Myler as well. After the stick he got at the HJ it would have been very easy to rub our noses in it but his lack of celebration when he scored at least showed us some respect.

Good post.

I really, really hate singling players out, especially after a performance like that, but you're spot on about Ste Tyrer.

We were in Edinburgh and speaking to some Cas fans sat behind us in the west stand,they were at the cas v salford game last week .
In their opinion we were the worst team they had ever seen down there ,didnt look interested and clueless,
deja vue....................................

Good weekend spoilt by our tragic weekend yet again
Also did anyone else see holdsworth walk straight off after the final hooter,?

San - re Holdsworth ... it was noticed.

Two issues:

Harrison won nothing from June of the year before he was sacked until he was sacked. The two reasons we did so well was defending on wetter pitches (this stopped when they dried) and Dunneman.

Secondly the only reason we can whinge is that Wilkinson has kept us alive for so long. We are surrounded by boardroom failures: Leigh (check its recent history), Oldham and Rochdale: all in the SuperLeague era. Ask these clubs would they have JW esq. and they would.

We have a fervent support, but far too few, and a very limited future if things continue. Wilko is not young nor in the best of health. If he has to step down, we are goosed. No ground, no money ... Swinton Mk 2.

As I was leaving following the Wakey/Leeds match, I talked to another Red about this. He stated we need another benefactor. Where?

We have to deal with the cards we have been dealt.
And if our cards belong to a "Happy Family" set whilst the opposition hold a full house, then we have to play according to that.

He's right, we do need anther benefactor (in addition to JAW, rather than instead of him).

However, there are plenty of other RL clubs, and an increasingly large number of football league clubs, who also need another benefactor.

The problem is, they are few and far between at the best of times and in the current economic climate they simply don't exist.

Hillbilly Red:

Such a good post, very sad but right to the point!

A few years ago when the forever reds was launched it helped the club in its hour of need, I don't know if the forever reds still as the same impact in sponsoring young players in its ranks today.

I am a member of the forever reds but not active & while we still have a club in the pole position do we the supporters need to dig deeper, do we really care enough!

It seems quite clear now that not just with our club but with others whether football or rugby that a real crisis looms in the financial viability of ours & other sports, it is clear to me we need to ask ourselves what we are prepared to do about it.

It worked so well last season it seems we have decided to employ this tactic again.

You cant afford to get stung with penalitys willy nilly not at superleague level, to be fair its a mixure of lazy play and Dumb decitions from certain players every week, they are like a cashpoint for penalities at times.

If you have to spoil it because A) your not fit enough physically or menatilly to compete at this level or B) Your in the middle of a oneup-manship on the field the message is simple... be better.... dont get stung with the same penalities week in week out because its becoming rather annoying, learn and learn quick regardless if your a 10 year pro or somebody just starting out.
Im sure these individuals they will be off living the dream somewhere in the sun this week rather than nuckling down to wrong the rights of the last few weeks.

Optimist - you've got it spot on

We deliver field position to the opposition game after game - we get walked up the field penalty after penalty - who's fault is that?

Coach - does he not tell them what to expect?

Players - don't they know the rules?

Rule book got chucked out the window going off that humiliating performance , last seen being dumped in a bin pre ko at Cas.